this is for the engine builders!!
 

i anyone here has built up honda motors (I mean complete buildups from bare block) for racing i would like to have your email. I am planning out a motor for a drag car that i'm gonna be building and need some help.

Re:this is for the engine builders!!
 

You're probably not going to get any help that way. If you post your questions/problems it's alot easier for people to help you. Just a suggestion.....
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Re:this is for the engine builders!!
 

yeah but i dont wanna ask a question and then everyone flame me and plus i need people that have had experience doing it and not just buy what someone told them.

Re:this is for the engine builders!!
 

just post your question...unless its just plain stupid you wont get flamed.

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well i guess the first question would be can i build a 12 sec. turbocharged B18C1 (parts only no labor) for $6000?? I want the block sleeved, new pistons, rods, etc. also would an Ls/Vtec be cheaper?? $6000 is about all i have to work with!!

Re:this is for the engine builders!!
 

to run a 12 you dont really need to sleeve it, nor do you need to spend anywhere near 6k. do you already have the motor?

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arent people doing 12s here with built sohcs?? 6 grand is dough

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only one i can think of off the top of my head is boostedED9 (not built)...i think he went 11.8 in a crx. it all depends on the car

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So pretty much i can be a hell of a lot faster?? I just want the most power and be streetable. I do not have the motor since i am doing a complete buildup. I just gonna start w/ a sleeved block. But i'll prolly only have $6000 to work with.

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"only" 6k will go a long way as far as building an engine is concerned

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ok here is what my plans were.
Gsr motor and tranny
Clutch (not sure which one)
blocked sleeved and maybe bored to 2.0
rods, pistons
Stock crank???
cams
turbo (everything that goes along w/ it)
hondata
aftermarket intake manifold
3 inch exhaust.
If there is anything i missed please point it out!!

Re:this is for the engine builders!!
 

what exactly is your question...seems like you have a plan in your head already

Re:this is for the engine builders!!
 

you can probably do it for 6k if you aren't dumb, I'm dumb so I couldn't do it. you should just start by putting a bov on your current motor, then put crooked posts in your block and do your own haircut.

Re:this is for the engine builders!!
 

lol. Most of that 6k will be spent trying to find a gsr swap and transmission. If I had that kind of cash I would put together a motor that wouldn't cost most of my cash just trying to find such a rare motor. I'd do an ls/vtec turbo, IMO. ;)

Re:this is for the engine builders!!
 

what about making ur own sig pic

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were did that come from ravage? I made my own avatar, then that retard racerex put an x on it and called it his own, it's really my art work.

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i know man, thats what im saying kylemadeturbo.com
everything u shouldnt be doing, at least if ur not drunk ;) ;D

Re:this is for the engine builders!!
 

near me (east coast), gsr swaps are frequent and pretty damn cheap, although i question the legality of most of them

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I need to find my damn digi cam so I can document everything I do wrong, I could probably make a weekly article. Like today for example, I welded my exhaust hanger bracket to the wrong place on the pipe and my welds all look like ---- and every joint in the exhaust leaks.

Re:this is for the engine builders!!
 

what type of car is it ? if its a crx, put a h22 in there and fi it B-) that should get you some twelves :-D

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ok i think since i wanna save as much money as possible i'm gonna go ls-vtec. I'm gonna do everything i mentioned before though. B/c a GSR swap is gonna be about $3000. and i only have $6000 to work with.

Re:this is for the engine builders!!
 

build a b16a. same thing, helll of alot cheaper

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saying you cant build a motor for 3k?

Re:this is for the engine builders!!
 

ive got less than 2 grand into my built motor....

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i'm gonna need everything though, meaning transmission, wiring harness, Alternator sutff like that. I dont mean just part to build up the block i need the whole swap plus a built up motor.

Re:this is for the engine builders!!
 

all that comes with the motor usually

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how much will sleeves,rods, and pistons be?? adn anything else i need to build up my block??

Re:this is for the engine builders!!
 

not to be rude, but do some research. no matter what we tell you, we dont control prices or what brand you will buy. try raceeng.com for parts and golden eagle for sleeving

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golden does there own sleeving. I know a guy that can do it so i just need sleeves. Does anyone sell them seperate??

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ask around....i think golden eagle does

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i went to that website and got prices for rods, pistons, and sleeves. Is there anything else for the block i'll need?? Should i get an aftermarket crank?? Knife edge??

Re:this is for the engine builders!!
 

stock cranks are fine...how much power are you looking to make?

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as much as possible but still somewhat reliable and streetable. I can be rebuilding motors everymonth ya know!! I am building the car for the car and to cruise around in on weekends.

Re:this is for the engine builders!!
 

if the swap costs $3000, block build up $2000, thats $5000. i can turbo it for $1000 so it isnt gonna add up.So Would an LS/Vtec be cheaper?? could i run 12's with out building up a GSR block??

Re:this is for the engine builders!!
 

12's are easy if you know what your doing. Between me and my friends we have 4 stock blocked GSR and LS's in the 12's. I would personally reccomend buying an LS motor. $6,000 in motor work is good for a low 11 second run. But again I've seen kids build $4,000 motors and are stuck in the 13's. Money doesn't guarantee a fast car, knowledge and experience does.

You gotta crawl before you walk, if you don't have the experience, I'd say boost a stock motor until your ready for a built motor, cause you might be building yourself an expensive fireworks display.

Re:this is for the engine builders!!
 

if you just want 12s, stick with a stock gsr if thats what you want. you will be able to get over 300hp with decent boost

Re:this is for the engine builders!!
 

Ok, with using a GSR motor it might be cloes to $6000 (motor $3000, turbo $2500 w/ hondata) that only leaves me with $500 for other stuff and i still need a clutch. So i'm gonna use an LS motor and maybe go ls/vtec one day. But are turbo'd stock ls's capable of 12's??

Re:this is for the engine builders!!
 

And your motor is built with what?

Re:this is for the engine builders!!
 

you many have less than 2 grand into your built motor but i need more than just piston rods and sleeves. I need a whole motor, everything to make it run and transmission. And to top it all off i still need to peice together a turbo and get it dynoed tuned. So if you did all of that for $2000 hook me up!!

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He didn't there is no possible way, unless he got ---- work done for him.

I just spent $4.5k on my complete conversion, but I had a professional and reputable comapny build the entire engine. (www.dh-racing.com), and as far as a transmission I got lucky and found a JDM d15b7 w/ LSD on eBay.

What type of motor are you looking to build a DOHC or a SOHC? If you're going SOHC, get the D16Y8 transmission and a LSD kit from like Quaife.

How much power are you looking to put out? My hopes was to get around 400 whp, at about 20 psi - so thats what I had this entire motor built for. My biggest problem is gonna be with the axles (I am trying to set up an order through fast-turbo.com for their axels for this particular application).

Are you gonna be building over time? or do this all at once? If you do it over time then its definitely worth it to spend your money on quality parts, rather then crap. I know this site has alot to do with "Home making" it. But the more I see people doing this, they come back later posting about how the whole attempt failed miserably - so I try to steer clear of it.