Mrturbojoe

yeah the the first two are knock offs the last one is a real garrett t25 rebuild , but it all depends on quality control ive seen ebay turbos last forever and ive seen them grenade 2 weeks in , same with real garrett or borwarner or holset do the same thing its really hit and miss , to tell you the truth borg warners replacent center sections i find are more in "spec" then garrett ones , Also you said the svo mustang had similar motor id bet you take the oil pan off the svo, itd bolt right up , no need to fabricate and wahhh laa ! instint gratidification , given thats were the return is on the svo

rockmike

Thats what Ive been hearing,kinda hit and miss with the china knock off.I aint made of money lol so im a fraid ill end up rollin the dice on the knock offs.I wonder how much of it is user abuse? runnin a good synthetic and not letting them cool before shutting the engine down,etc,etc poor quality air filters,etc. hard to say.

Thanks for the info on the oil pan that makes alot sense,I actually know where one of the SVO's are in town Ill have to go take a look at the oil pan.I recall seeing the lil I.C. under the hood.I wont be runnin an I.C. on my set up ,theres no room and i dont think the bomb would be a good idea lol thats alot of air and propane to be in an I.C. on my draw through set up.

Hey man appreciate your post and input on the subject!

rockmike

In summary,Ive learned from you fine folks that a T3 could work well for my app. but I wont get boost untill I hit about 2,000 rpms.To me this is unacceptable I could see me on the perfect line crawlin a big ol rock at 1400 rpm and then all the sudden some boost comes on and nearly instantly im putting out more power,if the terrain isnt high bite! I could break traction and have an ugly wreck,slide off my line and have to retry.

BUt a t25 would give me nearly instant spool ,no to very little lag and y'all feel that the t25 wont restrict my WOT that much? A guy still be capable of an output near 250 hp with the 2.3L runnin a t25 or am I on pipe dream at this point?

I think at this point its pretty clear what I need for the rig,and what my expectaions of the turbo is.

What is your best advice for what turbo to go on the hunt for what AR etc go for the t25?

Thanks alot guys I appreciate the help.I know y'all dont like people just comin in and sayin what do I need! you figure it out for me! Im trying my best not to do that,Ive been reading and attempting to learn.Plus beeing polite and apprecaitive in hopes this will net me best success in getting good info from you folks.

Thanks,Mike.
Fwiw: this is my rock buggy I built that im wanting to boost.

Ive built every inch of it,so y'all can see im not a complete idiot...but im a fabricator not a tuner.

Out in the dunes playin wishing I had boost! lol

HMT-Roger

Nice buggy! Good work.

rockmike

Thanks admin-roger..apreciate it.It work very good,just the 40" tires really sucked the power out of my 4 banger...


So anyone got anymore input on my turbo selection?


thanks for the help!

john0270

I don't think your scenario of how the boost will screw with your rock climbing abilities is correct. Boost is all moderated by your right foot, Unless your chugging away at 1500rpm at full throttle all the time its going to be a non issue. Unless you have an SVO engine you don't want to be putting 250hp out of that thing. Anyway, your still not thinking draw through right? You will need a turbo with a carbon seal if you are.

Anyway that's a sweet rig, Once you have a few turbo parts in your hands I have no doubt this will come together fairly quickly.

rockmike

So you think a t3 with a small ar # would be better than the t25??

An svo engine and what I got are pretty much the same other than svo has the oil return already there and probably a differant cam profile.Any 2.3: (pinto motor)can handle 250hp no problem.Have you seen the main and rod caps on these engines! there big! I had a guy size up some SBC connecting rods for this engine on top of that...shes built tough!

I was told by putting the butterflys on my intake my turbo wont see much if any vaccum,so ther fore no need for the carbon seal? is this bad info??

I want the draw through so I can have inrichment along with the boost.If I blow through i dont get this! then Ill have to come with some sorta puter type set up to increase fuel as a bring on the boost...I dont want no puters in my mountain goat rig!!

Sure appreciate your input on this...im in no hurry,Ill continue to spong up on all the info I can learn untill im ready to do this mod.

Thanks!! Mike.

busa4

why not an extra injector controller? its a basic computer that will add fuel to your intake based on rpm and boost level. its a simple 3 wire hook up and it will do wonders for driveability and reliability. i would stay away from the draw through design.

rockmike

So what so taboo about the draw through guys?? Blow through is the way to go ya think ,why?

Care to link me to such a computer for the inrichment...not real sure where I would find such a thing.Would this be the same type of gadget that the water meth systems use?it reads a boost signal and opens up a solenoid of some type to bring more fuel?

Again apprecaiate y'alls time trying to help a stuborn newb out .

Thanks! Mike.

busa4

no not the same. this is an actual computer that connects to additional fuel injectors you will add to the boost pipe or intake runners. the computer will add fuel when in boost only. you program the controller for how much fuel to add depending on rpm and boost pressure. this system with a blow through design is your best bet. you will need to add a fuel pump to the system in order for this to work. there are plenty of injector controller makers out there. do a google search for additional injector controller or extra injector controller. the draw through design is by far the easiest way to go but i just dont think running fuel through your turbo and piping is a good idea. i cant imagine what would happen if you backfire just once. which could happen easily if you dont get the mixture correct.