Does this mani look like SSAC shit to you guys?
 

Hey guys, I found this mani on eBay and it looked pretty nice so I asked on TurboD16 what they thought about it and just about every one of them said it's an SSASHIT mani and that it's a POS ...but I don't think it looks anything like an SSAC. The external wg flange is on the opposite side, the finish is polished steele or not chromed out, and then flange that goes to the head is different, and not to mention the welds look better IMO. It says it's a Tsudo mani...I can't find anything on them other than their exhausts on eBay and I've read nothing but good reviews on those. Tell me what you guys think. TurboD16 started being gay about it.

Here's the "Tsudo" mani
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Here's the SSASHIT mani...
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Look the same to you guys or does the 1st one (Tsudo) look pretty good?

Re: Does this mani look like SSAC shit to you guys?
 

its not ssautochrome, but I dont know what it is :1

Re: Does this mani look like SSAC shit to you guys?
 

Yea that's what Im saying. On TurboD16, I asked what they thought about the mani, not whether it was SSAC or not and then they all said it was SSAC. I told them that it didn't look like it to me and I posted a pic of an SSAC kit so they could compare and then tell me what they thought again. Then they got mad and asked why I was asking if I was going to say it wasn't an SSAC. I never said it wasn't for one, and 2, I didn't even ask if it was SSAC. I simply asked what they thought of the mani lol. Sorry I know that's just useless info but it kinda made me mad. Anyway, does it look good to you guys or what? I know it's hard to tell from pics...but Im thinking about actually trying it out to to see. If I were to crack or anything, I could have it welded back up and then sold on eBay lol. But their exhaust systems seem to have good reviews so I dunno...anyone else have any opinions?

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Looks similar, but I don't think it's SSAC. It's probably something just as cheap though. :-\
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Re: Does this mani look like SSAC shit to you guys?
 

yes it is.

Re: Does this mani look like SSAC shit to you guys?
 

How can you tell it's SSAC?

Re: Does this mani look like SSAC shit to you guys?
 

same shitty bracing, same shitty material, same style to the construction, same style photos showing all the gaskets and bolts.

newsflash they don't manufacture ----, they get all their stuff from some shitty chinese knockoff distributor, and have more than one design.

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I've heard that they have more than one design before but everywhere I look...even the ones that don't say they're SSAC but still look the same...look EXACTLY the same as SSAC. You don't have to be an ass about it either dude. Im just asking.

Re: Does this mani look like SSAC shit to you guys?
 

is there any printing on the box it came in?

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I haven't ordered it yet. Im just looking at it. I found SSAC's website...Im about to email them pics of this mani and ask them if they've ever made one that looks like that.

Re: Does this mani look like SSAC shit to you guys?
 

please leave your vagina on Honda-Tech and don't get all pissy over here. You need not take everything on the internet so seriously or personally.

so you know pretty much every shiny manifold you see on ebay will be ss auto.

Re: Does this mani look like SSAC shit to you guys?
 

how they do the collectors and everything is the same. even their shitty one stage chrome plate. its a chineese mani no doubt.

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I wasn't getting pissy dude lol. And I hate Honda-Tech. That's why Im asking on here. I was just saying, you don't have to be an ass just b/c I was asking a question you thought was dumb. But anyway, thanks for the replys...

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I am pretty sure its an OBX manifold, expecially since I myself own one..

What makes it stand out as OBX is the cast stainless flanges.. here is mine..

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...0_195_full.jpg

Mine is still perfectly fine a year later.. of course I have the turbo and wastegate braced..

EDIT: Tsudo is its own company however..

Re: Does this mani look like SSAC shit to you guys?
 

I just ordered my mani from JG-Fab. I didnt want to end up with any cracked manifold issues. I like the idea of supporting the turbo, and w/g though.

Re: Does this mani look like SSAC shit to you guys?
 

Yea, that's what Im saying. Tsudo is it's own company and they make their ----. And I was looking at the OBX mani's on eBay too. If the OBX is holding up fine after a year, then I think a Tsudo would as well.

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Re: Does this mani look like SSAC shit to you guys?
 

hey wastegate are on oppisite sides

Re: Does this mani look like SSAC shit to you guys?
 

yea, i think pre 93 models need the wastegate pointing to the passanger side or something.

Re: Does this mani look like SSAC shit to you guys?
 

so you guys think it's a real Tsudo manifold or what?

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It does look like some kinda Tuesdo/OBX/SS manifold.They are all poorly constructed but it may hold up fine.If it is cheap enough run it and see how it goes.If it cracks then it won't come as a shock.These days log manifolds are so cheap due to the market being saturated I would just spend the 2-250 to get a real manifold that will be trouble free.

Re: Does this mani look like SSAC shit to you guys?
 

Its put together with ducktape and bubble gum. You put that on your car and I promise with in 500miles you will have to stop and back track to find your turbo because it fell off.

Or maybe it will last forever.

Its your car, do what you wish.....


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Re: Does this mani look like SSAC shit to you guys?
 

I dunno...it is pretty cheap. I might run it just to see how it does. Then again, I may not. Im not sure yet.

Re: Does this mani look like SSAC shit to you guys?
 

hmm, i just say you get it and try it. I had a ssautoshit mani for a h22 hacked up to ---- to fit my engine and it NEVER gave me crap. And i had it on there for quite a while with alot of abuse everyday.

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Yea I might do that but I think this is a real Tsudo...they have good reviews on their other stuff so hopefully this is good too. I have heard tons of horror stories about SSASHIT mani's cracking but this isn't SSAC, HOPEFULLY, it's a little better welds. Doesn't the SSAC crack b/c it's different kinds of metal welded together?

Re: Does this mani look like SSAC shit to you guys?
 

The main issue is the material is to thin and once ot gets hot it cant support any weight of it.There is more reasons but that being the main one.

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Good luck with that, they have the worst customer service, and if it was their product, hed probably say it wasnt because he wanted to make a sale. They know people asking if a product is "theirs" its not because its a good thing people want to buy. Just a heads up. The problem with all the chinese manifolds is the people who sell them are in it for every buck they cant and really dont care what their customers get. Lots of big companies like greddy etc outsource to china but they make sure they use good materials because they have a reputation to uphold. They save their $ on the labor. SSAC and the like could provide a descent product if they forked up another $20.00 for better stainless, thicker gauge material and an experienced welder doing the work (not an 11 year old boy). Just insight for people who are curious. Its up to you to make an informed decision.

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Tsudo doesn't make ---- of their own. These are the manifold catagories. Fit it into one.


Cheap OBX ---- that ANY COMPANY can buy and say is theirs. (same as the pictures you posted)
Custom made manifolds usually not made until you order.
Cast manifolds made either here or china (not sure) but they tend to be good quality.

Re: Does this mani look like SSAC shit to you guys?
 

It is very oberivous that it is a china manifold and again you will have to trust me on this one ^-^
Look at the aluminum can pressed gasket and the grade negative 10 alumin bolts :X

SS nor OBX are the manufactory, they are just buying stuff and re-sell them. there`s like 9650119519874 other ppl are buying the manifolds from this 908743987 factory in china.

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yea you guys are probably right....I think really hard about doing stuff before I do it and that's why I haven't ordered it yet. I'll probably end up getting CC-FAB to just make me a log mani. It's the same price and his come with a lifetime warranty against cracking. Thanks for helping me out in my decision. May have saved me lots of money...but I guess we'll never actually know lol.

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lol, lifetime warranty. :S

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yeah i dont know the legality if that if its not even a real company... with like a tax ID ect... im not saying he wont honor that now but like 4-5 years from now i wouldnt expect much

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i was going to buy it myself because i have an ss mani right now. im not having any problems with it, but the wastegate on the other side would be a big help to me.

on ss autos website, this manifold is not on there..so its def. not them.

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If SSAutochrome/TurboXS was doign any of their own manufacturing, for the amount of bulk that they sell, they certainly wouldn't be doing it here:
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/3159/whack6kz.jpg
in the middle of the greenery.

Re: Does this mani look like SSAC shit to you guys?
 

hahaha there ganja farmers with a shitty turbo company for a front ... LOL

Re: Does this mani look like SSAC shit to you guys?
 

Nooo I was saying that CC-FAB's come with a lifetime warranty lol. Im saying Im probably getting one of his now. That way I don't have to worry about anything. I was thinking and since this is my first turbo build, I don't want to spend the money on it all and then run it for a few weeks and then have to pay a lot more money b/c the mani cracked.

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I know thats what I'm laughing at. Lifetime warantee as in lifetime of the manifold you bought or the lifetime of the manifold company? :l Do you really think 6 months after these backyard manifold builders get tired of making manifolds and stop selling them are going to bother to spend money to fix your broken manifold when they no longer have a reason to? I'm not accusing CC-fab of doing this but its common sense that it'll happen.

Re: Does this mani look like SSAC shit to you guys?
 

Uhh...I dunno. I've talked to CC-FAB and he's a pretty cool guy from what I can tell and he's trusted pretty well on d-series and a few other forums including this one I thought lol.

Re: Does this mani look like SSAC shit to you guys?
 

Any of those style manifolds are madein the same factory by 1o year old chinesse slave labor. They all crack atleast majority. A solid product line will be 98 percent error proof not the reverse of 2 percent with sucess.

Re: Does this mani look like SSAC shit to you guys?
 

Yea man, I understood that already. I said Im buying a log mani from hotrex now. But thanks...