do i have to water cool my 14b????
 

like it says do i have to use the water lines????

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Most people will tell you you don't have to...

But they're there, so why not?

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I care more about my motor overheating than my turbo, so I choose not to use the water cooling section of the turbo. Think about how much extra heat that turbo is kicking into the coolant system. You might say "Well they came stock on cars and they don't have any problems", and while that is true, they were also designed to use a water cooled turbo. Your typical Honda cooling system wasn't designed to cool down a turbo.
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Re:do i have to water cool my 14b????
 

This is exactly why I chose not to. Watercooling is designed for lazy people that can't idle there car before shutdown.

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so my car should be good if i let my car idle for about a min before cutting it off? It would be so much nicer not run water lines. Plus with the part about your car overheating it makes since due to the fact that you will have less airflow due to the loss of one fan and a front mount in the way of the radiator.

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You should be fine. I'll idle my car for about 30 sec to a minute depending on how hard I drive it.

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----...just get a better fan for your radiator and run that ...they sell 2600cfm fans on ebay and you can hardwire them to run all the time....

Re:do i have to water cool my 14b????
 

i had my watercooled 14B hooked up for well over 6 months and the temperature gauge never went past where it normally was with the engine non-turbo.

hook it up.

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I live in AZ where the outside temperature is already pretty close to operating temperature so adding extra heat to the cooling system will bite me in the ass, especially at stop lights.
What advantages do you see from hooking it up? Better cooling for the turbo? Who gives a ----? That fucker runs at glowing red hot temperatures. Let it run hot and let my cooling system cool the motor, not the turbo.
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Well lets look at this...
By running only a oil lines on a water/oil turbo you:
1) increase temp of the turbo
2) increase the temp of the oil that is passing through it, which is going to soon be going through your motor.
3) that oil, unless you have an oil cooler is going to get hotter and hotter, then the heat from the turbo that goes into the oil, that has to pass through the block, to the waterjacked will then be passed through your radiator and wow... looks like your ---- is getting hotter no matter what.
4) the excess heat that would be taken away by the water cooling section will raise the oil temps breakin down the oil vicosity causing premature failure of your oil. (so you'll need to change it every ~1500 miles instead of 3k miles, if it is regular mineral based oil.
5) If you're worried about overheating at stop lights, then do like i said above and purchase a larger 2 core radiator (if you have the room) and then pickup a 2600cfm fan. 2600cfm's is a hell of a lot air. your stock honda fan pushes something like 800cfm's.
6) last but not least, hotter turbo = more heat will be passed to the air that is going to your intercooler = higher charge temps.

hmm sounds crazy to me, but i'd just hoook up the water jacket...it will prolong the turbo life and keep the overall average temp of your system down.

if you want to break down the underhood temp even more, wrap your manifold w/ heat wrap and the downpipe all the way to past the oil pan, it will help flow too...then get the bigger fan, wrap your charge pipes w/ heat wrap to prevent heat soak, btw, you should disconnect the throttle body loop to take down charge temps if you wanna do that too....

just my 0.03cents

nathan

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How do you think non-water cooled turbos work? :-\ No problems there......

The turbo won't affect the intercooler because the air would be moving the opposite direction.

I have a ZC in an EF. I hardly have room for any radiator, let alone a dual core beast(without modifications).

Let's look at this:

Your cooling system was designed to cool your motor and it does a pretty good job of this. Now, you add an extra item in the system that produces extreme amounts of heat and your cooling system that was only designed to cool down your motor is trying to cool all this extra heat down. Ok, now that you have added this extra heat you are also adding extra compression in the cylinders and making extra power whcih also produces more heat. Now, you also have an intercooler blocking airflow to the entire engine bay, including the radiator. Your cooling system wasn't designed for any of this extra obstruction. Your cooling system is getting it's ass kicked by all this extra heat and no matter how big of a fan you put on it, it's still going to be running alot hotter than it should be.


Just my $0.02 :-\
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Re:do i have to water cool my 14b????
 

non water turbos don't have the jacket there, by leaving the jacked unfilled and just air, it will probably <--not sure, im just making this up here type thing...lol, create hot spots. whatever

i still think it'd be better to run the water...

hook the ---- up with a real temp guage and see if it changes the overall system temp

nathan

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Better for what though? The turbo or the motor?
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Re:do i have to water cool my 14b????
 

thankx.....we'll see how it goes w/o the water

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So I guess the added benefits/drawbacks are really based on where you live then... ???

I'm up north where the temp has been around 85 lately. I was running mid 14s before I added the cooling lines. I've gotten three 1/4 mile runs in since and I'm running exactly the same.

My engine bay has always been hot and I really don't feel much of a difference other than some extra heat in the vents... I haven't decided if that's the summer temp. change or my imagination yet. ;D

One thing I have noticed is that my spool seems a little slower and my acceleration seems slower... Which blows my mind because my times haven't changed. I do have the cooling rerouted around the TB so maybe the extra heat is having some affect on the feel, but performance seems unchanged.

My $0.59

Re:do i have to water cool my 14b????
 

bypass the throttle body coolant line and go directly into the eacv to the turbo, and then from the turbo to the block?

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I was going to do that but I got lazy, ha ha... ;D

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haaaaaa... hotspots on a turbo... thats guts... don't run the water dude... it's only there to make sure the turbo last over 60,000+ miles without shutting down propperly (cooldown)...

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Screw water cooling, man up and roast that turbo. :-*