diesel turbo?
 

hey, i been visiting this site for about a year.i,ve done some research but still can't get a desent answer.can i use a turbo off a diesel in a draw-tru turbo setup on a petrol car.

Re: diesel turbo?
 

I guess it would depent on the turbo you wanted to use. Why a draw through though, why not a blow through? What kind of car is it for?

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you may have been visiting the site but you havent read ---- obviously there is like 10 people on here at least using diesel turbos. do a ------- search instead of making your self look like a ------- retard

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Search doesn't work, and hasn't for a while.

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You really need to calm down a little. Almost every post you make these days has you calling someone stupid or moron. If you actually gave advise instead of belittling someone, maybe you would be a bit more productive towards the contribution and betterment of this site.

Re: diesel turbo?
 

Holset HX35.

Re: diesel turbo?
 

you can.

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it will work with no issues

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www.google.com


worked fine for me


or you could suck my cock. some one just made a post about this 4 days ago. you act like you feed on noob sperm. dont you get tired of ansewring the same question 3-4 times a week

Re: diesel turbo?
 

if you're gonna use the turbo to boost an air/fuel mixture, you need a turbo with a static, carbon seal thrust system. i'm not aware of any diesel turbo equipped with such devicefrom the factory. ALL BORGS, HOLSETS and Garrett diesel turbos I have looked at have dynamic seal, which allows oil-Gas contamination if fuel is present in the compressor.
how bad is this contamination actually? I don'T know. I quite frankly don'T have much hands-on experience with draw thru.

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so that whole post was pointless

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heres and idea.....if you are sick of answering the same question 3-4 times a week, how about you ignore the question and dont answer them insted of posting a stupid worthless comment like the 2 you have made.....just some food for thought....ohh and i think you should lay off the internet steroids internet tough guy!! :y

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Another ------ that stole a computer :3

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You can use a diesel turbo. Some diesels turbines may not stand up to the heat as well because diesels typically have cooler average exhaust temps. It shouldn't be a problem unless you always drive the car like you stole it.

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that is what i was thinking. O0

he is just mad becouse i cought his mom in my bathroom stuffing my dirty underwear and playing with her 12lb clit, so i was forced to call the authourities

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this is the exact reason why i stopped posting on this forum....too many stupid ass useless post and not enough helpful one.... :3

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yeah, guys, never use a diesel turbo on a gas engine!!! diesel turbos are very special turbos that may melt or even explode if used on a gas engine!!!!! :y

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The best thing to do when considering using a diesel turbo is to look up the turbine wheel part number and see if it is also used in a turbo for a gas engine. If it is then you will know for a fact it is safe to use. Otherwise, your gambling... Of course we know some people here are willing to gamble. ;D

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if you've got diesel turbo for cheap - use it. if not - sell, buy gasoline turbo and use it.

STOP FLOODING

ps: lets report wich diesel turbos work with hondas

1. I'm. holset HY35w. Work just cool!

Re: diesel turbo?
 

WHat I moslty want to know is :

Which diesel turbo fails or deteriorates because of heat when used on a gas engine? :S

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that fact came from a person with little to no experiences with any turbos. im accually LOL from that comment.

as for the question, from my gatherings, many people are using holsets on gas engines and having absoutly nothing but positive feedback from them. I havent heard much negative info from them. Check out my holset thread.

Re: diesel turbo?
 

i used a chevy diesel turbo for a while, its on a friends car now.

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ma friend used smal turbo (its like t25) from bimmer 525 tds on 1.8 bmw engine. it was okey 'till he swapped on garrett T3 (he wanted more flow)

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This is also why I usually stick to the Tech section. Honestly I don't have to answer the same questions over and over again, maybe because I give in-depth help and information instead of snide comments. People and forums in general seem to respond more to a helpful atmosphere than a condescending one. Consider this...you were a noob once too, and I'm sure you used to ask some pretty idiotic questions. Hell, you still use afc's and btm's...time to catch up a little, bro. But if knowledge scares you, stick with what you know. ;)

As for diesel turbo's, I've used the KKK models from mercedes turbo-diesels, as well as VW ones as well. They seem to work ok, although suffering from smaller exhaust a/r's for quick boost response on diesel setups that usually never make it above 4500 rpm.

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Yeah. Problem with diesel turbo - their small turbines. Just find out big enough diesel turbo and it will work just fine.

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Some of the old GMR alloy turbines won't hold up on a modern turbo charged gas engine thats pushed to the limits. GMR alloys have a thermal limit thats about 150 degrees less than Inconel. If you aren't too aggressive It will hold hold up. You really want a Inconel or titanium alluminide alloy or a silicon nitride turbine.

Most turbo makers switched to Inconel for a majority of the turbine wheels they made but they still used the GMR alloy on some diesel turbochargers for a while to keep cost down.

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Well, it'S certainly not garrett'S case. on their diesel turbos, they use the same exact alloys as on performance turbos. And they're the same trim wheels and part numbers too. For example, since the mid 60's until now, you see on trucks, tractors, generators, compressors and farm equipment the same exact T4 O, N and P trim turbine wheels as seen on their performance turbos. internals are also the same. ACtually BETTER than for most gas automotive turbos because all diesel turbos have dynamic seal system while cars like the nissan 60 trim Z31 have static seal which is inferior.

Once, i used a Holset 3Ld from a industrial snowblower, on a H22.
It was brand new and it blew in 4 days.
FLakes were coming off the turbine housing. at first sight it may look like weak alloys and overall quality of the turbo but i know it wasn'T the case. THe real reason for such failure was that the 3Ld was too small for a h22. spooling super fast, choking the engine up top and Causing enough restriction to make manif and turbine become glowing red while it was overspinning, which abuse would have destroyed any turbo of course.

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i think thats why my car smokes after boosting. i have a really small turbo. as long as it stays in vaccume the car doesnt smoke, but after a run with boost it smokes for a min. or two. hopefully with this t3 i have all of that will be gone

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wow what did you think was going to happen?? thats like putting a 14b on a 5.0 and being supprised that it blows, and calling it a crappy turbo,

i dont care what all of these ------- noobs are say'n i have seen tons of diesel turbo's on hondas and nissan's and ran absolutely fine, anyone who differs is a horse's ass ! :6

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haha lol people have ran 300+ hp on fmu's and dipped into the 11's

but i guess according to you thats pretty gay huh ??????????

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Yes...people have run 300+hp on fmu's and gotten into the 11's...over 10 years ago when current ecu technology wasn't too well known. At the time it was pretty much all they had to use. IMHO it's not the most accurate or predictable way to go. Sorry if I'm not Baller anymore, but I got sick of replacing motors a long time ago...why destroy it if you don't have to.

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i've never blown a motor in my life

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You're very lucky then. It's pretty sad now that I sit and think about it...I toasted more motors n/a than I did boosted...ain't that some ---- :P

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lol becouse you gotta rev the ---- out of NA motors

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me too. i am still on my 1st boosted engine for over a year now

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no one's say'n it the most accurate or safest way but it works, my buddy had a turbo 1.5 mini me with a sunbird turbo on it pushing 12-15psi for a year on a fmu before he swaped in his built z6 spent 120 on chipping the ecu 580 dollars to get it tuned (dyno time plus 150 and hour for the tuner) got a smaller turbo went back blew a brand new turbonetics turbo at only 12 psi now it has the tune from the turbonetics turbo before it blew, with the same sized turbo and it runs like mother ------- ass, my n/a b17 would eat it, the second time he went up there he paid 200 for the tunning, so in the end he spent a grand and made no progress, and this was work done buy a aem ems certified and crome certified tuner, really he should have just got a basemap and a vafc and he would have saved alot of time/money

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12-15psi on a stock bottom end? i thought ringlands couldnt handle much more than around 9 psi for very long

Re: diesel turbo?
 

it depends on a huge t-3 no


but a super dinky t-2 yes

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ya it was on a small t2 but none the less it was running on a fmu, and ran great, buttom end looked mint when we swaped it for a built z6, timing was a lil retarded through dizzy 3 check valves and a fmu, thats how we rock the 250 dollar turbo setups ;)

Re: diesel turbo?
 

The only problem I could maybe see with a draw through would be vacum pulling oil past the compressor wheel once the throttle plate is closed,especially when shifting at high rpm.Can't intercool a draw through either.
I use a holset hy35w from a cummins,on my dodge 2.5ltr minivan,no problems with the turbine @ temps close to 1600deg and almost daily driven for over 6 months.