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nonvtec 11-18-2004 01:34 PM

Dear God, make the smoking stop (Updated)
 
Put on my kit two weeks ago. It's been smoking the whole time. When i'm not on the throttle or coming to a stop it lets out big puffs of smoke. Idling and full throttle nothing though. On the highway at half throttle there is so much oil being eaten by my engine it starts to bog and if I don't boost the motor starts to cut out. Thought it was my oil return so I made it nice and direct to my pan. Did that today then went for a nice long drive, smoking like a chimney when I got back. It's a stealthmode kit. I know people put these on without using an oil restrictor valve, how is mine any different. Please someone give me the answer so I can make the smoking stop!! :'( D15b7 with a 48/60 T3.

Ravage70 11-18-2004 04:57 PM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop
 
do a crompression test
might be more than ur turbo :-X

nonvtec 11-18-2004 04:59 PM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop
 
My motor was perfect before the turbo was on, never smoked once. I've only had it at 5 psi, it is not my motor. It doesn't smoke when its cold because the oil pressure is high. It's the turbo. I just don't know why this is happening to me, it seems like people put on more ghetto kits that mine all the time and theirs don't burn oil. >:(

Boost n Ls 11-18-2004 05:25 PM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop
 
Ohh don't worry too much, it's just prolly your turbo with bad seal. LOL na that's one possibility, check return line too see if its kinked, check ic pipes too see if theres oil in it.

nonvtec 11-18-2004 06:32 PM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop
 
Oh yeah there is oil in IC pipes, oil return is nice and straight though I don't know what's wrong with it, the turbo is rebuilt and has absolutely no shaftplay.

djfob 11-18-2004 08:10 PM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop
 
sounds like a bad rebuild....slap a restrictor on and see if it helps

MikeJ-2009 11-18-2004 08:16 PM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop
 

Originally Posted by djfob
sounds like a bad rebuild....slap a restrictor on and see if it helps

That would be the only thing that comes to mind too. Especially if there's oil in your charge pipes. :-\

nonvtec 11-18-2004 08:59 PM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop
 
I'm holding one in my hand, I'm putting it on next week, if it doesn't work I guess the turbo is going to need a rebuild? I don't really have money for that so looks like I'll be driving it until it really takes a ---- :-\ Lets just hope the restrictor works.

uncle_louie83 11-18-2004 10:55 PM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop
 
did u reroute your pcv valve to a catch can? if not then your shoving boost pressure into your crank case and its causing massive blow by....hell its just one possibility...but i had the turbo smoking problem too...and i changed it out...and wala...no more smoking

louie

nonvtec 11-19-2004 12:31 PM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop
 
No catch can, just a breather filter. But that would make my valve cover smoke not my exhaust. It's the turbo, I just don't know why.

Curtis2kul 11-19-2004 02:46 PM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop
 
im having the same problem. im kinda thinking its my return line but there will be smoke coming out of the turbo when at idle until i give it a little throttle ??? and when im stoped at a light it will start smoking pretty bad, i wouldnt really car about the smoking but it smokes so bad it comes out of the hood

HMT-Admin 11-20-2004 07:24 PM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop
 
Easy way to tell if its the turbo guys is just take off the downpipe and look around the exhaust housing and turbine wheel to see for oil residual. This is pretty common on used turbos. Oil leaking out of the exhaust seal and burning up. If the return is not straight, not big enough, or in the wrong spot on the pan it will build up oil into the center section and leak out.

Oh, and that Nosmoke ---- from the local autoparts store actually works pretty decent. I used some for awhile when I had a bum seal on my t3/t4.


nonvtec 11-23-2004 01:54 PM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop (Updated)
 
Put the restrictor in, dialed it halfway closed, still smoking. Bought some smoke away from the auto parts store and put that in, still smoking. It's bad. If I let it idle and then go under the hood and kick the throttle after I let go it just starts spewing smoke. I don't know wtf is the problem. It doesn't smoke when i'm on the throttle but if I am cruising on the highway the car starts to cut out as if I am burning smoke like crazy??? I dont know what to do, I was supposed to drive home for Thanksgiving break today but I guess I cant? I may drive it and just let the turbo blow or something, i am sick of this. So I guess the turbo is bad then? Is that the consensus? This sucks.

MikeJ-2009 11-23-2004 02:01 PM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop (Updated)
 
Just close the restrictor a little more. haha. If the turbo is that bad, than the only thing you can do is hope to give it just a little bit of oil and not enough to smoke. :-\

SpankedYA! 11-23-2004 03:17 PM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop (Updated)
 
My first T3 smoked bad when I started the car and then went away. You have a bad turbo.

nonvtec 11-23-2004 03:57 PM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop (Updated)
 
:-\

MikeJ-2009 11-23-2004 04:03 PM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop (Updated)
 
Put a couple screens in the charge pipes and turn the oil down. The screens are for when the turbo comes apart your motor won't ingest anything. ;D

mahcivic 11-23-2004 04:12 PM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop (Updated)
 
when my car was burning oil i thought it was my turbo. but that didnt sound right cause it was brand new. and i didnt htink it was my motor either, cause that was brand new rebiuld too. turns out it was the motor. i was driving on a basemap and there was so much fuel it washed out the rings, plus the ignition maps were so off that it was detonating really bad. the detonation cause the rings to scuff the cylinder walls and ---- and cause some blow by and some how oil got in the IM, but the throttle body was dry so it wasnt the turbo. turns out it was the motor, took it apart and it was all fucked up. but if your saying theres oil in the charge piping its def your turbo

nonvtec 11-23-2004 04:45 PM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop (Updated)
 
Yeah, its the turbo, I turned the oil down more and now it doesn't cut out on the highway, yet anyways. Still smokes at idle when kicked over. Stealth you really think I should toss some screens in the charge piping? :( Well if it comes apart tonight there is going to be a very sad post in GD tommorow.

robs99si 11-23-2004 04:58 PM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop (Updated)
 
i'd sell the turbo on ebay after it's been cleaned up first though. put as is in the ad. look for a turbo at a junkyard with the money you get for the fucked up turbo on ebay.

Dr.Boost 11-23-2004 05:11 PM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop (Updated)
 

Originally Posted by trebor_nordap
i'd sell the turbo on ebay after it's been cleaned up first though. put as is in the ad. look for a turbo at a junkyard with the money you get for the fucked up turbo on ebay.

You should be bitch slapped.
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mahcivic 11-23-2004 05:15 PM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop (Updated)
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW
get this mang. not a bad deal. they say its new too...so you shouldnt have problems

Dr.Boost 11-23-2004 05:19 PM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop (Updated)
 

Originally Posted by trebor_nordap

go fix your hooptdy and shave your bald head. ;D
The hoopty is fixed and I was actually just about to shave my head. How did you know? ???
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robs99si 11-23-2004 05:28 PM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop (Updated)
 
lol congrats on getting your car running.

djfob 11-23-2004 06:03 PM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop (Updated)
 

Originally Posted by nonvtec
Yeah, its the turbo, I turned the oil down more and now it doesn't cut out on the highway, yet anyways. Still smokes at idle when kicked over. Stealth you really think I should toss some screens in the charge piping? :( Well if it comes apart tonight there is going to be a very sad post in GD tommorow.

I'm sure your ic will catch the debri of turbo shrapnel :P

MikeJ-2009 11-23-2004 09:04 PM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop (Updated)
 
I think it would take no oil at high rpms for a little while to break apart. And even then it probably wouldn't' go through the charge piping. As long as you have a little oil going through it it shouldn't be a disaster. If you have water hookups, now's the time. ;)

robs99si 11-24-2004 12:10 AM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop (Updated)
 
just let that bitch smoke. i'd rather have smoke then a blown turbo and ---- in my charge pipes.

djfob 11-24-2004 12:12 AM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop (Updated)
 

Originally Posted by trebor_nordap
just let that bitch smoke. i'd rather have smoke then a blown turbo and ---- in my charge pipes.

trust me if you ever had a turbo smoke that much you'd rather go at it this way :-\

MikeJ-2009 11-24-2004 12:26 AM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop (Updated)
 
Yeah, I think there's alot of room left to "turn the oil pressure down" too. At the very least the turbo is going to need a very low psi.

hotrex 11-24-2004 01:10 AM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop (Updated)
 
id rather replace the turbo

nonvtec 11-24-2004 11:16 AM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop (Updated)
 
Well, I made it the 150 mile drive back to my house. Smoked a little bit. I think the saving grace was that Smoke Away stuff I bought, the car was sputtering on the highway at first but as it warmed up it magically went away. Checked my oil level, lost a little bit, nothing severe though. Checked shaftplay, still none. I guess there is no way to tell if a turbo is good or not, because mine certainly seems like it is good, but its not.

Stealth: The oil pressure is turned way down. I can't adjust it while the car is running because it is too hot so... Maybe I'll turn it down a little more, but I don't want to burn up the turbo, just a hair too much and that turbo gets starved.

Trebor: I am letting it smoke, maybe the smoke away will permanently fix it :D, maybe not. But I spent all my money on this kit, I certainly don't have the money right now to buy a new turbo.

Hotrex: No money for new turbo, anyone know if those CCA rebuild kits are any good?

I am working over Christmas break but I had origiinally wanted to spend that money to build a motor. This sucks, I have never heard of a turbo smoking after being starved for oil, oil return fixed, and no shaftplay. This is some kind of fluke.

nonvtec 11-26-2004 08:15 PM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop (Updated)
 
Since the shaftplay is good, the turbo just has bad seals. Nothing is going to blow apart though right? I mean, it could have bad seals and smoke for a year before it finally went. Is that possible?

MikeJ-2009 11-26-2004 11:46 PM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop (Updated)
 
I think a turbo could smoke for a long long time before it "went".
Since your shaftplay is good, I would assume that as long as you give it oil it's still gonna keep running. That's weird that you don't have any shaft play and it's smoking. Nothing wrong with drain line or anything? ???

nonvtec 11-27-2004 09:48 AM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop (Updated)
 
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg

My return line looks good to me. Yep, still no shaftplay.

RENR 11-27-2004 10:21 AM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop (Updated)
 

Originally Posted by hotrex
id rather replace the turbo

ya mang start new. replace it

robs99si 11-27-2004 06:47 PM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop (Updated)
 
if the turbo pulls til redline and minimum shaftplay, then i'd do what you wanna do, replace the seals. might aswell get a complete rebuild kit and rebuild the turbo. can you imagine how fucked up it'll be if you went and bought another used turbo and that one started smoking too.... :'(

nonvtec 11-27-2004 07:41 PM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop (Updated)
 
Yeah, the next time I buy a turbo it's definitely going to be new. Probably going to rebuild this one. Started smoking like crazy today. Those seals are on their way out.

hotrex 11-27-2004 10:09 PM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop (Updated)
 
dude, just buy a real turbo.

nonvtec 11-28-2004 08:28 AM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop (Updated)
 

Originally Posted by hotrex
dude, just buy a real turbo.

Who is going to pay for that? :-\

slowpoke 11-28-2004 10:34 AM

Re:Dear God, make the smoking stop (Updated)
 

Originally Posted by nonvtec

Originally Posted by hotrex
dude, just buy a real turbo.

Who is going to pay for that? :-\

since you obviously cant afford forced induction you should convert your car back to na, until you can! otherwise your probably going to ---- up more ---- in the long run and you wont be able to afford that either.



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