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FooK 04-16-2005 06:28 PM

Day 3 battle, leaky oil feed. *pipe up stevemode*
 
ok i cannot win with this oil feed.

stealthmodes 14b fitting got a little chewed on my first turbo because it didnt thread far enough to get past a few bad threads. so when i put it into the new turbo of course its all loose and shitty. So I got a coupler and another fitting with deeper threads.

Put that in and it all still leaks. So next I tried a hi-temp epoxy putty, and globbed that on around the fitting, seems to seep past that.

this is whats on there now.

http://www.centerlinemotorsports.com...icture-018.jpg

My next idea is to chip all that crap back off of there, and re-use the banjo bolt fitting from the original dsm oil lines, cut the end off my stevemode line, and clamp it on to the dsm fitting. My only problem is I don't know if the oil line has a big enough inner diameter to go over the dsm fittings tube. Here's a picture of that.


Anyone have any idea how big the inside of the stainless feed lines in steve's kits are, think it will go over that?

HMT-Admin 04-16-2005 06:39 PM

Re: Day 3 battle, leaky oil feed. *pipe up stevemode*
 
Just by looking it appears you used a "brass" fitting, which I would then assume is a Standard thread pitch, and the 14b is a metric fitting, no wonder it leaks?

I'd say sport the banjo fitting with the feed line over it and some clamps (if it fits) SS line isnt nearly as flexiable as others.



MikeJ-2009 04-16-2005 06:41 PM

Re: Day 3 battle, leaky oil feed. *pipe up stevemode*
 
I don't think that pipe is going into the oil line.

After looking at the picture, I think I would use the banjo with the pipe that's connected, but at the end of the pipe, weld a -4 onto the end of it. Cut the "turbo side" threads off the fitting you're using now, and weld that (really good) to the end of the pipe. ;)

FooK 04-16-2005 06:42 PM

Re: Day 3 battle, leaky oil feed. *pipe up stevemode*
 

Originally Posted by AbaZ
Just by looking it appears you used a "brass" fitting, which I would then assume is a Standard thread pitch, and the 14b is a metric fitting, no wonder it leaks?

I'd say sport the banjo fitting with the feed line over it and some clamps (if it fits) SS line isnt nearly as flexiable as others.

yeah it was a brass fitting from napa but the threads appeared to match, but it wouldnt surprise me if they were different.

and i wanna go with the banjo fitting but im not gonna cut the end off of it til i know its gonna fit, otherwise ill really be screwed.

i could tough it out for a while, and order another fitting from steve, but i dont know if thats gonna work too well at this point.


Originally Posted by Stealthmode
I don't think that pipe is going into the oil line.

After looking at the picture, I think I would use the banjo with the pipe that's connected, but at the end of the pipe, weld a -4 onto the end of it. Cut the "turbo side" threads off the fitting you're using now, and weld that (really good) to the end of the pipe. ;)

hmm, that might work. that'd mean a trip to woodburn, man i wish my shop was closer. your fittings are steel right?

i dunno how in the hell id cut those threads off. not alot of tooling for that.

MikeJ-2009 04-16-2005 06:50 PM

Re: Day 3 battle, leaky oil feed. *pipe up stevemode*
 
Now that I think about what Jeff said, all of my 1/8 fittings are brass or aluminum, and those metric fittings are always steel or aluminum. That fitting I sent you for the turbo is steel. You just need to find a way to make the end of that pipe a -4 and you'll be good.

FooK 04-16-2005 06:57 PM

Re: Day 3 battle, leaky oil feed. *pipe up stevemode*
 

Originally Posted by Stealthmode
Now that I think about what Jeff said, all of my 1/8 fittings are brass or aluminum, and those metric fittings are always steel or aluminum. That fitting I sent you for the turbo is steel. You just need to find a way to make the end of that pipe a -4 and you'll be good.

what if i weld the fitting directly to the pipe, that will work wont it?

do you have any of that steel braided line around that you can measure the I.D. for me?

con 04-16-2005 06:59 PM

Re: Day 3 battle, leaky oil feed. *pipe up stevemode*
 
double flare the steel line like a brake line(put a tube nut on it first) then get a fitting to go from a flare fitting to the an fitting. ;)

FooK 04-16-2005 07:01 PM

Re: Day 3 battle, leaky oil feed. *pipe up stevemode*
 

Originally Posted by highroller54
double flare the steel line like a brake line(put a tube nut on it first) then get a fitting to go from a flare fitting to the an fitting. ;)

i been all over parts stores and their huge fitting bins, i have yet to find a suitable fitting to solve this ----.

just for clarity what exact fittings are each end? turbo and oi line side?

J-SMITH69 04-16-2005 07:06 PM

Re: Day 3 battle, leaky oil feed. *pipe up stevemode*
 

Originally Posted by FooK

Originally Posted by highroller54
double flare the steel line like a brake line(put a tube nut on it first) then get a fitting to go from a flare fitting to the an fitting. ;)

i been all over parts stores and their huge fitting bins, i have yet to find a suitable fitting to solve this ----.

just for clarity what exact fittings are each end? turbo and oi line side?


lots of places dont sell metrix fittings, if you find a hydrolic shop, they have commie to standard size adapters. i have to do this with one of my turbos cause the fitting was gone 8)

HMT-Admin 04-16-2005 07:06 PM

Re: Day 3 battle, leaky oil feed. *pipe up stevemode*
 
I am almost certain you can get that stock fitting/tube to work. It will just look ghetto. Cut the end of it so it's nice and straight, dont flare it unless you think you need to. I think the ID of the line that steve sells is pretty small, I dont know maybe 1/4 or smaller? Reguardless take the fitting off the end of the SS line, then lube the ---- out of the tube and slip it on, throw on a few hose clamps and your good to go. Otherwise just order the Metric to -4an fitting, I think its just a 10x1.25 to -4


FooK 04-16-2005 07:13 PM

Re: Day 3 battle, leaky oil feed. *pipe up stevemode*
 
i went out and took this pic, dont think its gonna fly like that

HMT-Admin 04-16-2005 07:15 PM

Re: Day 3 battle, leaky oil feed. *pipe up stevemode*
 
christ looks like -3


FooK 04-16-2005 07:32 PM

Re: Day 3 battle, leaky oil feed. *pipe up stevemode*
 
ahh ---- it, im just gonna deal with this later and go to the racetrack for now.

looks like it might actually not rain for a change.

ibassez 04-16-2005 07:44 PM

Re: Day 3 battle, leaky oil feed. *pipe up stevemode*
 
i was going to cut it to good that i didnt i dont know if it would fit i think it wont i had the same problem you did hope i dont leak

J-SMITH69 04-16-2005 07:52 PM

Re: Day 3 battle, leaky oil feed. *pipe up stevemode*
 

Originally Posted by FooK
ahh ---- it, im just gonna deal with this later and go to the racetrack for now.

looks like it might actually not rain for a change.

we're goin the 23rd right? or are you gunna go tonight :(

FooK 04-16-2005 08:17 PM

Re: Day 3 battle, leaky oil feed. *pipe up stevemode*
 

Originally Posted by random-strike

Originally Posted by FooK
ahh ---- it, im just gonna deal with this later and go to the racetrack for now.

looks like it might actually not rain for a change.

we're goin the 23rd right? or are you gunna go tonight :(

tonite, the 23rd...why not both.

im gonna go tonite and spectate and TRY to not give into the temptation to race.

the 23rd is on too. thats woodburn tho

J-MAN 04-17-2005 01:28 AM

Re: Day 3 battle, leaky oil feed. *pipe up stevemode*
 
when i did my first set up with a T25 and stevemode kit i had to keep the actual feed that came with the turbo and get some adapter fittings to connect to the SS line

MikeJ-2009 04-17-2005 01:40 AM

Re: Day 3 battle, leaky oil feed. *pipe up stevemode*
 
Get a -4 on the end of that hardline and you're straight.

projekteg 04-18-2005 07:23 AM

Re: Day 3 battle, leaky oil feed. *pipe up stevemode*
 
just get a new 1/8npt to -4 and fitting, then tap the feed hole on the turbo with a 1/8npt tap and you're good to go. i just had to tap mine b/c it wasn't threaded at all :P

koreanwilcox 04-18-2005 10:03 AM

Re: Day 3 battle, leaky oil feed. *pipe up stevemode*
 
I have a fitting that might work for you... I bought it a few years ago for my DSM T25 but never used it... it connects a -3an line to a T25 turbo...

I don't know if the fittings for the T25 and 14b are the same size, but they might just be... you can have it if you want it, I have no need for it anyways... let me know if you want to try it out!

Reddy 04-18-2005 10:19 AM

Re: Day 3 battle, leaky oil feed. *pipe up stevemode*
 
should have bought a Whiteymode oil line kit, its universal with everything. :P

bumblezc 04-18-2005 01:06 PM

Re: Day 3 battle, leaky oil feed. *pipe up stevemode*
 
I have fitting from napa that is a little lose. I use some JB Weld on the threads, threaded her in, let it sit and have never had a problem.

daubleaaron 04-18-2005 11:58 PM

Re: Day 3 battle, leaky oil feed. *pipe up stevemode*
 
I have used the banjo bolt with the stevemode line, what I did was took a three inch section of rubber hose and clamped it around the banjo side than slipped the other side over a threaded fitting which was screwed into the stevemde line, clamped it up and never had to cut the stainless line. worked fine for me.

FooK 04-18-2005 11:59 PM

Re: Day 3 battle, leaky oil feed. *pipe up stevemode*
 

Originally Posted by daubleaaron
I have used the banjo bolt with the stevemode line, what I did was took a three inch section of rubber hose and clamped it around the banjo side than slipped the other side over a threaded fitting which was screwed into the stevemde line, clamped it up and never had to cut the stainless line. worked fine for me.

yeah i was thinking I might try that as well.

spiceisler 04-19-2005 10:21 AM

Re: Day 3 battle, leaky oil feed. *pipe up stevemode*
 
I had the same problem with the oil fitting adapter so this is what I did. I cut the stock Banjo fitting and drilled it out then tapped it for a 1/8 npt pipe thread.

http://www.dotphoto.com/SAN1/16/AB/2...57E39EF41B.jpg

http://www.dotphoto.com/SAN1/D7/9D/F...4B3375473A.jpg

http://www.dotphoto.com/SAN1/B1/9B/E...7CA545D70A.jpg

http://www.dotphoto.com/SAN1/C0/08/F...247405CFD9.jpg

http://www.dotphoto.com/SAN1/57/6F/1...EAE8C5CA13.jpg

Or you can get one of these:
http://www.dotphoto.com/SAN1/5D/E4/6...50D3DF5754.jpg

projekteg 04-19-2005 10:46 AM

Re: Day 3 battle, leaky oil feed. *pipe up stevemode*
 
::thumbsup:: to your diy banjo to an! :)

MikeJ-2009 04-19-2005 11:06 AM

Re: Day 3 battle, leaky oil feed. *pipe up stevemode*
 
That banjo tapping is the ----. Good work. ;)

spiceisler 04-19-2005 11:12 AM

Re: Day 3 battle, leaky oil feed. *pipe up stevemode*
 
Thanks Projekteg! It's amazing what you have to do in a bind. So far no leaks and the turbo is water and oil cooled.

FooK 04-19-2005 06:55 PM

Re: Day 3 battle, leaky oil feed. *pipe up stevemode*
 

Originally Posted by Stealthmode
That banjo tapping is the ----. Good work. ;)

word.

thats very hmt style.

i dig. i might buy that banjo thingy at the bottom, im tired of trying to deal with this fitting and it seems like the easy way out.

all i gotta know is which i should buy.

options are

Banjo Adapter -4 male to 7/16 Hole diameter .425 height (this looks like the winner, the opening is about 12mm, which converts to .462" which is about 7/16 (7/16=.437)

Banjo Adapter -4 male to 10mm Hole diameter .425 height

Banjo Adapter -4 male to 3/8 Hole diameter .425 height

Damn, $6.18 to buy it....$7.57 to ship it. Cmon it weighs like an ounce.


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