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sgoertz 11-09-2004 11:31 PM

D.I.Y. Install: TD05-14B to HF Manifold
 
D.I.Y. TD05-14B to HF Manifold
w/BMC Turbo Adapter

http://www.bmcrace.com/images/all_you_need.bmp

Basics you need:
(1) HF/CX/VX/STD Manifold
(1) TD05-14B (DSM) Turbo (O2 Hsg optional)
(1) BMC 14B/HF Turbo Adapter*
(1) HF Catalytic Converter Gasket (aprox $18.00)
(1) TD05-14B Turbo Exhaust inlet Gasket (Mitsubishi P/N MD128901 aprox $5.00)
(2) M8-1.25 X 35MM studs/set screws**
(2) M8 small dia lock washers**
(2) M8-1.25 hex nuts**
(1) M10-1.25 25MM long SHCS (Socket Head Cap Screw)**
(1) M10-1.25 40MM long SHCS**
(3) M10-1.5 25MM long SHCS**
(1) Scale/ruler
(1) 4 MM allen wrench (optional for 8MM set screws)
(1) 8MM Allen wrench (for 10MM SHCS)
(1) 13MM wrench

* 14B/HF Adapter available from BMC
**Fastener Kit Available from BMC

Note: sometimes bolts need to be shortened before tightening, recommended procedure is to check to make sure that the bolt does not bottom in the threaded holes before tightening.

I recommend pre-assembly of all SHCS’s to thier maximum depth (BY HAND) and verify with a scale/ruler that the flanges are wider than the exposed bolt minus the head
If you tighten your bolts and they bottom in the threads before the adapter is tight:
a) you may find it difficult/impossible to dissasemble later and
b) you may have leaking exhaust gases

http://www.bmcrace.com/images/install_studs_25mm.bmp
Step 1
Install 8MM-1.25 X 35MM studs/set screws with aprox. 25MM (1.0 in) exposed (longer studs may bottom in threads, DO NOT tighten with wrench)
Note: Studs/setscrews should install easily by hand

http://www.bmcrace.com/images/adapter_to_turbo.bmp
Step 2
Install adapter plate on turbo
Note: Gaskets were not available for pics, but are recommended along with High Temp Gasket Sealer
Note: the 8MM studs/setcrews are installed in the inboard Turbine Inlet flange bolt holes.

http://www.bmcrace.com/images/adapter_to_turbo_2.bmp
Step 3
Losely install (1) M10-1.25 X 25MM long SHCS in the counter bored hole and
temporarily install (finger tight only) the (1) M10-1.25 X 40MM long SHCS
in the remaining turbine inlet flange bolt hole
Center the flange between the max/min tolerances and tighten the M10-1.25 X 25MM long SHCS
aprox. 30 ft lbs.

http://www.bmcrace.com/images/lock_washers_and_nuts.bmp
Step 4
Install and tighten the (2) Lock Washers and (2) M8 Hex nuts aprox 20 ft lbs
BTW, the 13MM flare line wrench did not clear, you need a 13MM open/boxed end wrench

http://www.bmcrace.com/images/remove_10-1.25_x_40.bmp
Step 5
Remove the (1) temporarily installed M10-1.25 X 40MM bolt and
prepare to install the manifold.
Again Note: Gaskets were not available for picture taking, but are recommended along with
High Temp Gasket Sealer

http://www.bmcrace.com/images/manifold_to_adapter.bmp
Step 6
Align the HF Manifold and loosly re-install the (1) M10-1.25 X 40MM long SHCS in the same location as before

http://www.bmcrace.com/images/manifold_to_adapter_2.bmp
Step 7
Loosly install the (3) M10-1.5 X 25MM long SHCS’s,
center between the max/min tolerances and tighten all (4) SHCS’s to aprox 30 ft lbs.

http://www.bmcrace.com/images/assemble_to_motor.bmp
Assuming all went well, this is what you should now have ready to install on your Honda D Series Motor. Please note that some adjustment/clocking of the compressor housing may be required for your application.

http://www.bmcrace.com/images/14b_dp_clearance_2.bmp
Note: the clearances of the stock TD05-14B O2 Housing

http://www.bmcrace.com/images/underneath_2.bmp
Note the clearances under the engine, esp. the A/C mount/Torque Arm at the far right.

http://www.bmcrace.com/images/requir...rance_8_in.bmp
One Last Note: You will need a minimum of 8” clearance between the boss for the A/C Mount/Torque Arm and your radiator. If your application is an 89-91 model CRX/Civic, you may need to make other modifications to use this combination.

Happy Boosting....
-Sam
BmC Racing
BMCRace.com

RENR 11-09-2004 11:34 PM

Re:D.I.Y. Install: TD05-14B to HF Manifold
 
those x's rock!

whiterice 11-09-2004 11:36 PM

Re:D.I.Y. Install: TD05-14B to HF Manifold
 

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sgoertz 11-09-2004 11:47 PM

Re:D.I.Y. Install: TD05-14B to HF Manifold
 
You two are fast...I'm still trying to get all the kinks worked out....
-Sam

RENR 11-09-2004 11:48 PM

Re:D.I.Y. Install: TD05-14B to HF Manifold
 

Originally Posted by BmC RACING
You two are fast...I'm still trying to get all the kinks worked out....
-Sam

whiterice is a ----- :P

Cray91 11-10-2004 04:47 AM

Re:D.I.Y. Install: TD05-14B to HF Manifold
 
looks good. That should help anyone who has the BMC plate. That actually would make a lot of sense to print out and include with your parts. Nice little write-up though.

sgoertz 11-10-2004 07:20 AM

Re:D.I.Y. Install: TD05-14B to HF Manifold
 

Originally Posted by Cray91
looks good. That should help anyone who has the BMC plate. That actually would make a lot of sense to print out and include with your parts. Nice little write-up though.

I have started printing this one to include with 14B adapters. It seems many were confused as to how to install this particular adapter as it uses some different (not so obvious) mounting points. This combo actually makes a nice start for a DIY turbo kit.

-Sam

Sinner 11-13-2004 02:29 PM

Re:D.I.Y. Install: TD05-14B to HF Manifold
 
so you cleared your AC?

Nick

SkunT 11-13-2004 03:23 PM

Re:D.I.Y. Install: TD05-14B to HF Manifold
 
I wanna see that new mani with a snail on it....sittin on that engine. 8)

HondaTuner 11-13-2004 03:39 PM

Re:D.I.Y. Install: TD05-14B to HF Manifold
 
Nice writeup man, that'll be nice to show newbs when they ask stuff now :P

FooK 11-13-2004 07:36 PM

Re:D.I.Y. Install: TD05-14B to HF Manifold
 
i see the pics fine, quality write-up!

stargazer 11-13-2004 10:43 PM

Re:D.I.Y. Install: TD05-14B to HF Manifold
 
wow...great!! Thanks bmc! this should be stickied, or at least added to your site. :o

FURACERMAN 11-14-2004 02:19 AM

Re:D.I.Y. Install: TD05-14B to HF Manifold
 
Did it clear the AC?

sgoertz 11-15-2004 06:30 AM

Re:D.I.Y. Install: TD05-14B to HF Manifold
 

Originally Posted by FURACERMAN
Did it clear the AC?

No it does not clear the A/C, but it cleas the A/C - torque arm mount on the drivers side (USDM). I hope nobody thinks this set-up will allow A/C. The Compressor side of the Turbo sits right were the A/C Compressor goes.

-Sam

b0i 11-17-2004 03:09 PM

Re:D.I.Y. Install: TD05-14B to HF Manifold
 
how would u route the ic piping

BoosTedZSix 11-17-2004 08:30 PM

Re:D.I.Y. Install: TD05-14B to HF Manifold
 
great job sam!! and to b0i, i would imagine routing it about the ac compressor. and if its just not gonna be there it'll be pretty simple

sgoertz 11-17-2004 10:07 PM

Re:D.I.Y. Install: TD05-14B to HF Manifold
 

Originally Posted by b0i
how would u route the ic piping

Every installer has his own preferences, but many aim the compressor outlet down, insert a 90 degree bend and shoot the IC inlet pipe under the frame on the driver's side (USDM), insert an 180 degree bend and come back in front of the framing (behind the bumper) to the IC, from the IC to the passenger side (USDM), around the frame and up thru the original Air box hole in the left fender and on to the TB. But you may backdoor your IC and use a much shorter run. Whatever you do, I would suggest keeping the IC pipes out of the engine bay as much as possible, low (if in the engine bay) and away from any heat sources (or at least up wind of the heat sources). Be sure to use beaded pipes and clamps or they will blow off.

-Sam

AgentMurdoc 11-18-2004 02:47 AM

Re:D.I.Y. Install: TD05-14B to HF Manifold
 
BMC adapter plates sales are gonna sky rocket now! :D


nice write up though mang!

b0i 11-18-2004 11:42 AM

Re:D.I.Y. Install: TD05-14B to HF Manifold
 

Originally Posted by BmC RACING

Originally Posted by b0i
how would u route the ic piping

Every installer has his own preferences, but many aim the compressor outlet down, insert a 90 degree bend and shoot the IC inlet pipe under the frame on the driver's side (USDM), insert an 180 degree bend and come back in front of the framing (behind the bumper) to the IC, from the IC to the passenger side (USDM), around the frame and up thru the original Air box hole in the left fender and on to the TB. But you may backdoor your IC and use a much shorter run. Whatever you do, I would suggest keeping the IC pipes out of the engine bay as much as possible, low (if in the engine bay) and away from any heat sources (or at least up wind of the heat sources). Be sure to use beaded pipes and clamps or they will blow off.

-Sam

i have the same turbo as the demo, can u clock the compressor outlet downwards? i have a td04 doesnt seem like this turbo can clock

sgoertz 11-18-2004 08:32 PM

Re:D.I.Y. Install: TD05-14B to HF Manifold
 
Some of the turbos have an orientation pin between the bearing housing (center section) and the Compressor housing. If you remove the compressor housing, you can grind the pin off and then you can clock it.

-Sam

b0i 11-21-2004 11:31 AM

Re:D.I.Y. Install: TD05-14B to HF Manifold
 
does the pin hold the compressor housing? can u show me picture please


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