Cracked Sleeve, Need Opinions and Help~
 

Alright well after going to the shop this afternoon one of the sleeves is cracked. I dont know what im going to do. Im still waiting to hear if the pistons and rods are ok. Basically i can either send the block off and have it resleeved and everything installed again which is gonna cost alot. Or buy a stock bottom end and throw in the pistons and rods from the current cracked motor and just deal with stock sleeves. Or i could see how much a swap would cost but it just seems like there too much invested for me to go a diff motor route.

For the record, i just bought this ------- del sol less then 2 weeks ago. I drove it twice and on the second day i had to have it towed to a shop. It was on 5psi of boost. Obiovusly the guy who sold me the car was a ------- liar and drove it too ---- before he sold it to me. Heres a mod list of what it has, the new fuel management is on the list but not installed yet. I bought it right after i bought the sol but not sure on what im going to do yet.


Also, would it be possible to just have 1 cylinder re-sleeved? Only one is cracked but i dunno.

Heres a copy of my mod list thus far, even though the fuel mangement isnt installed yet.

1993 Del Sol Si
Captiva Blue

MOTOR:
D16z6
Sport Sleeves
JE 9.1 Pistons
Eagel Rods
Comp Turbo Cam Shaft
Crower Valves "ferrera"
Springs "crane"
Retainers
ARP Headstuds
Ported & Polished
3 Angle Valve Job
Cometic Head Gasket
MSD BTM
MSD BLASTER COIL
MSD 2 Step
JG CAM GEAR
Pullys
Focuz Intake Manifold
Alum Flywheel
ACT Clutch
Underdrive Pulley

FUEL MANAGEMENT:
255 Walbro Fuel Pump
Aem Fuel pressure regulator
E-MANAGE (basic unit)
E-MANAGE IGNITION HARNESS
E-Manage Pressure Sensor
e-manage Pressure sensor harness
E-MANAGE INJECTOR HARNESS
PROFEC E-01
Profec E-01 Signal harness
Remote Switching System
Standard A/B usb Cable
450cc Injectors, Clips, Resistor Box

TURBO:
Greddy 15G turbo kit
Greddy FMIC
Greddy Type S B.O.V
2.5" Downpipe
Greddy Turbo Timer
Greddy Oil Catch Can
Greddy Catback Exhaust
High Flow Cat
Mandercoil Plug Wires
Greddy Spark Plugs
Optima Red Top Battery (located in back)


Interior:
trunk release added
power door locks added
push button starter
momo steering wheel
momo shifter
Viper 800 alarm


Exterior:
C/F hood
coil-overs
clear corners
crossed drilled rotors
14" Steelies

Re:Cracked Sleeve, Need Opinions and Help~
 

im sure u can just buy one sleeve,
i think they sell them for 25 bucks each

Re:Cracked Sleeve, Need Opinions and Help~
 

im hoping i can just replace one sleeve but ummmm yea its defonately gonna be more then $25 bucks...to get all 4 done with some other stuff was like 800 bucks....

im just wondering if you can just have 1 sleeve done, wasnt sure if it was possible. If this is the case then im just gonna have the one cylinder re-sleeved and put the pistons/rods back in and get back to boosting.

Re:Cracked Sleeve, Need Opinions and Help~
 

800 bucks holy ----. i did a sleeved ls block for 220 and it came out clean as a mofo.

Re:Cracked Sleeve, Need Opinions and Help~
 

i believe the sleeve kit alone was like $500 and then labor cost and all that good stuff

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first of all, if you going to just try and replace one sleeve, or even replace them all with stock sleeves, you would be better off just buying a different short block. as far as 800 bucks to have it sleeved, that's a whole nother story, you're talking about golden eagle or dart sleeves which would be able to handle all the boost you could throw at them, if you can afford it, definitely do this. oh yeah, you're stupid for buying a car that already turbo'd, of course the guy ran it to ----.

Re:Cracked Sleeve, Need Opinions and Help~
 

yeah definatly man i emailed golden eagle about sleeving my d16 block and he quoted me 800 dollars. maybe not exactly that but it was in the 800 dollar range and thats like complete with labor in all. and they have a lifetime warrenty against cracking so u dont have to worry about having to pay for it if it cracks. i think u should hit up golden eagle and see what they have to say

Re:Cracked Sleeve, Need Opinions and Help~
 

i agree. with a mod list like that Im sure you paid a pretty penny on the car... I'd get it sleeved properly.

Re:Cracked Sleeve, Need Opinions and Help~
 

DS-200-010 DARTON REPLACEMENT SLEEVE:D16-75mm $38.25 EA Check Availability

http://www.raceeng.com/showItems.asp...upplier=92009D

Re:Cracked Sleeve, Need Opinions and Help~
 

i think the clear corners are what caused it to crack, be sure to replace them with the stock corners after the engine work to ensure you don't blow the engine again.

Re:Cracked Sleeve, Need Opinions and Help~
 

cheap route: new bottom end

money falling out of your pockets: quality sleeve job

Re:Cracked Sleeve, Need Opinions and Help~
 

If sleeving is the route you would like to go. Get ahold of me and I'll help you out in this time of uber BS. (to say the least)

PM, email or call me toll free 877-367-2332 (to save you even more money). We'll get you straight. I'll also try to assist where I can regardless if you decide to go sleeving or not.

Re:Cracked Sleeve, Need Opinions and Help~
 

that price cant be right on the replacement sleeve...how come there is a "flanged one" too...whats the difference

Re:Cracked Sleeve, Need Opinions and Help~
 

thanks for the input. Im waiting to hear back from the shop to see if the entire sleeve is cracked and or which sleeve is cracked. If its the outter stock sleeve and its just hairline and small i can just use a blockguard and be done with it. If its the actualy sport sleeve thats cracked i will have to replace that one sleeve and continue on with the project. Apparently the outter sleeve's *stock sleeves* ave a tendancy to crack easily with the sports on the inside of them and its reccomended to use a block guard with sport sleeves to prevent the stocks from cracking. "Im hoping its just that smal hairline crack and its on the stock sleeve" If thats the case, im just gonna use a blockguard and have it decked for the cometic headgasket, and replace the arp headstuds.

Then ill be boosted again.

Any-1 know a rough estimate on how much a shop typcially cost to install a blockguard and deck for the head gasket.

Re:Cracked Sleeve, Need Opinions and Help~
 

i thought when you get it sleeved they machine out your stock sleeve entirely...but im ignorant

Re:Cracked Sleeve, Need Opinions and Help~
 

nope, im just gonna wait to hear back from them, im either going to have the entire thing re-sleeved or just replace what ever sleeve is cracked.

Re:Cracked Sleeve, Need Opinions and Help~
 

I think he doesn't have the Golde eagle sleeves or the strong sleeves.
Sport sleeves hmmmmm sounds like a low to mid performance sleeve

Re:Cracked Sleeve, Need Opinions and Help~
 

yea, i think they are a cheaper sleeve, the shop that did the sleeves and such is closed because the owner had a baby so im gonna have to wait until thursday to find out what kinda work they did on this thing. And im hoping i can just replace the cracked sleeve, bore it a little bit but not too mcuh to where i need bigger pistons, and then deck it for the cometic head gasket..

Re:Cracked Sleeve, Need Opinions and Help~
 

Very nice civic ghetto turbo!Sry to post in a differnt area major probs

Re:Cracked Sleeve, Need Opinions and Help~
 

if it needs sleeves, bite the bullet and go ge. or else youll crack it again

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In all honesty, go ------- buy another Z6 for $300 or whatever and drop the pistons and rods in there. You have 450cc injectors which are limited to what? 250whp on a D series? You dont need sleeves......what you need is some good fuel management. That greddy emanage crap is going to have those new $900 sleeves crack anyway