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P.R.Delsol 06-06-2004 09:21 PM

copper gasket or not
 
i just planned on going turbo not to long ago.the problem is that before i planned on going turbo i had my head shaved to 45 had the head port and polished and a 3 angle valve job done on a d16z6.now i got a t3 off a saab fuel, rail,johnny ic and 2 problems.i want to know first will i need a copper gasket to lower my compression since i got the head shaved or is that not that bad.my second question is will the apex afc and 450cc injectors supply me the fuel that i need for this setup. im trying to stay low budget but will go zdyne if i have to.any helpful oppinions welcome .

Turbo90Accord4DR 06-06-2004 09:22 PM

Re:copper gasket or not
 
keep the headgasket you got now, you wont be to high, and the afc and 450 if you SEARCHED will be just fine.

projekteg 06-06-2004 09:42 PM

Re:copper gasket or not
 
i concur, run a stock hg, you'll be fine.

Turbo90Accord4DR 06-06-2004 09:44 PM

Re:copper gasket or not
 
oh yeah, for copper head gasket you have to o-ring to.

projekteg 06-06-2004 09:46 PM

Re:copper gasket or not
 

Originally Posted by Turbo90Accord4DR
oh yeah, for copper head gasket you have to o-ring to.

smarty pants ;)

quadnie 06-06-2004 09:49 PM

Re:copper gasket or not
 
Where the hell did you come from Kevin?

projekteg 06-06-2004 09:52 PM

Re:copper gasket or not
 

Originally Posted by quadnie
Where the hell did you come from Kevin?


*twilight zone theme song* 'doo doo, doo doo, doo doo, doo doo' ;)

P.R.Delsol 06-06-2004 09:57 PM

Re:copper gasket or not
 
iwas wondering about the copper gaket because i got the head shaved and since that raises the compression i thought i would need a taller gasket to atleast get it back to factory specs. the question about the apex afc and injectors was because in the forums some people say good some peolpe say it sucks.im trying to go 10 psi but i dont want a headache. ive read that the afc advances timing and thats no good. if this can work with this setup fine but if this ---- is going to blow my motor i would rather spend some more cash and play it safe. any helpful oppinoins are welcome and thanks.

Turbo90Accord4DR 06-06-2004 09:59 PM

Re:copper gasket or not
 
like i said, your compression isnt high enough to cause any trouble.. you are ok.

P.R.Delsol 06-06-2004 10:16 PM

Re:copper gasket or not
 
thanks for the help.i just wasnt to sure about the afc and injectors but i will look into that.anyone else feel free to place your oppinion and ill read it later.PEACE.

projekteg 06-06-2004 10:21 PM

Re:copper gasket or not
 
like he said, you'll be fine, as far as the afc, yes it does advance you're timing a bit, but you're c/r ratio isn't high enought really for that to affect you, if anyting just retard you're timing at the dizzy a lil bit, but you can read up on that in the 'engine management' section.

HMT-Admin 06-06-2004 10:55 PM

Re:copper gasket or not
 
45 thou is only going to bump it up around 1/2 a point of c/r so your still under 10.0 and lots of people with stock b16's and gsrs boost all day long with compression in the 10's.

As josh said, in order for you to use the copper gasket you will need to oring the block, or cylinder head. Grooves are made around the sleeves for the steel ring to sit in, then the copper gasket get crushed, and this is what seals it.

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/tech_p..._block_1_P.jpg

Otherwise if you didnt the copper gasket would not seal up, and its usually about a 2-300 dollar job to do. The best way to do this is do both sides, the head and block (making a receiver grove) in the head.

Lots of work eh? ya thats why everyone suggest just running a stock Head gasket, they work just fine.

As far as the AFC, ya it works.. but with rom editors like turboedit and uberdata out there I would really be leaning towards that insted.

Jeff


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