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Old 12-25-2002, 04:33 AM
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Well, a "standard" V8 won't rev as high as reliably as a modern Honda engine... BUT it isn't that it is a 4 cylinder or anything, it is because of the valvetrain (pushrods and all). One neat mod i saw while hanging out with my "V8 Hot Rod Buds" at a meet in Cali, was a guy who made overhead cam conversion kits for almost all pushrod V8's... with this setup, i'd trust a V8 to rev high, very reliably.

By the way, i have a comment on something you said:

"nascar uses small block engines. they rev to like 12k-15k or around there i believe."

They are definately not revving those engines that high. 9500 or so i can believe, but definately not 10k+ unless they mis-shift or something... LoL. Watch the Tach's on TV(or the on-board telemetry they give you on Fox)... oh, wait a minute... does that mean i jusst admitted to watching NASCAR?!?!? aaaarrrrgggghhh!! ROFL!

Anyhoo, life goes on... lets all get along and make all our cars fast as hell
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Old 12-25-2002, 04:40 AM
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as i understand it, the new mustangs have OHC engines. all the ones except the saleen or cobras as SOHC. and the supercharged ones are DOHC.
i saw it on horsepower tv!

pretty cool.

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Old 12-25-2002, 04:46 AM
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as i understand it, the new mustangs have OHC engines

I'm sure that there is a good reason for it... hehe
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you're talking about a slow-maro, which obviously is totally stock. if someone put a turbo on a camaro and ran the same amount of boost you will be running on your car, it would be much faster. more CI = more potential. just the facts :/

you must remember also i could say that, if my hondas engines were that big itd be making 120 hp/per liter na stock/ (k20a honda s2000 motor)i dunno standard chevy engine displacements in metric but i know there generally bigger then fords, 120 hp/ 6 liters = 720 na ponies stock from a 6 liter v8 son! ---- son! those k20a motors are cocked to the side angularly ne wayz, jsut get another one in then and some how make up the rest of the 2 liters displacement siamese them bitches at the bottom home made stylez,
and i hope no one takes what i said "TO SERIOUS"
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Old 12-25-2002, 05:37 AM
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I'm not trying to knock your car random (i used to own a 72 chevelle ss, and would love any 60's model camaro) but damn, quit posting the damn things all over the forum. I'm sure by now everyone on the site knows what you have, no need for CONSTANT reminders. Thanks mr G.I. JOE.

This was in response to a post that has now been removed, in case anyone was lost...
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Old 12-25-2002, 05:41 AM
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oh, and seeing as i had a big block powered 72ss I know for a fact that that small block powered 2 ton beast you got there prob. wont hang with most of the imports driven by members of this forum. Good luck however with the turbo project on your old school....

I know Jeff, I know....I'll quit now.....
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Old 12-25-2002, 08:11 AM
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My point is not to bash V-8's; I would like one. My point is that these people are not educated enough to even look at my car to make charge pipes. Plus the only people that have nice muscle cars are the people that work at the car parts places. I love their cars, but all that they run is nitrous. I would like to see turbos on cars, but other than rigs and an occasional import, the only other vehicles running boost are work trucks. They are nice trucks; I'm just upset that no one will give me the time of day to even consider welding these things.I'm going to get some flexible ducting and make a model of the angles that need. I can rent a welder and an over-arm saw from home depot. Mark my angles and spot weld them. I guess you can't screw-up something if it's already welded in place. Thanks for all the help; I didn't want to **** any V-8 enthusiasts off.
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its hardly a beast. it weighs like 3200 pounds.

it runs 12s NA with slicks. add whatever boost someone else is running in their crx and that number would keep falling.
if i had some real slicks instead of street slicks it would run 11s. go find a horsepower calc and type in 3200lbs 12.0 E.T. it only gives you 400hp. that camaro has 500. and about 500ft-lbs t. thats less than 12s. with PERFECT traction of course.
i ran a 13.4 with street tires WITHOUT launching (i started at idle) and easy through 1st, didn't speed shift into second and had it floored from there. i smoked a supercharged saleen mustang. well not smoked it ran 13.6 but he had slicks. considering he was 2 cars ahead of me when i shifted into 2nd and i ended up passing him, thats pretty good

here is the only timeslip i could find. its a pathetic 13.9 when i ripped the HURST shifter **** off shifting into second. then missed 3rd and 4th gear trying to shift when the without a handle. im kinda empbarrsed to show this but you can see the pathetic 60 foot time (no slicks) and the pathetic trap speed (missed 3rd and 4th). you can see that i was at 78mph at the 1/8th mile, and only 94 through the traps! hows that work! :/ still ran 13.9, but at 94mph? sounds funny cause its not supposed to be like that. can't miss gears and ---- lol :/

if you enter 3200lbs, 13.9 E.T., 94mph. into a horsepower calculator. it gives you 236HP! when that car has 500. embarrsing



look how fast i caught up to that car when i was behind 2 seconds through 60 feet and only behind 4 tenths at 330 feet. he had slicks too, and ran a 12.7

building a sbc is so cheap too. way cheaper than turbocharging a honda (the right way :P)

ghetto junkyard turbo kits are cheap and thats why we're here.

you shouldn't call people hicks cause they like muscle cars. those guys that didn't know what charge pipes were are just stupid they probably knew what they were they just didn't want to do it.

ohh ninja:
if you check out some pro-street dragsters. a lot of them use turbochargers, even some REAL dragsters (the long ones) are starting to use twin turbos. its starting to catch on, but you have to realise that turbocharging is a very old technology. its been around forever, and supercharging/nitrious is a superior method of making a engine think its bigger. turbocharging adds way to much heat and hassle, when you could just bolt on a supercharger and have power throughout the rpm range. same with nitrious. but i think turbos are really cool still, thats why i want to use them.

Johnny

oh btw. 72 chevelle ss 454. 454ci 270bhp. hardly powered for a 4500 pound car



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They are both very nice looking cars though Random! Is the maro your as well Looks like you've got alot of time and money in it!!
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acually, the camaro was built by my father and I. he put the money into it though. big time money making a show car like that especially a show car that can scoot.

the chevelle is mine though.

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