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TurboneticsTBird 07-18-2004 11:56 PM

CAUGHT IN THE ACT!!!! U GOTTA READ
 
The company that makes SSAUTOCHROME's turbos
The ones from SS Are never marked at all.
The tag on the throttle body/intercooler pipe outlet is the exact same as this one.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33742

STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM THESE GUYS!!!
I know of 3 pending lawsuits on these bastards for selling nothing better than a $500 paper weight!

Buyer beware this is the same thing!
Ps. I have inside info b/c I was also screwed by these guys on a group buy on TURBOFORD.org

Honda16hb 07-19-2004 12:01 AM

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I don't get it, how is someone being caught in that listing?

TurboneticsTBird 07-19-2004 12:21 AM

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I've been searching for awhile for the connection between the SSAutochrome Company and the bad rep that the other companies have for a "SIMILAR" turbo.

They are caught. The brand: x: turbo SS sells is the same as the Zy Xs power guys.

The SS Company has been denying from the beginning there is a problem with their turbos. I think that is total bullshit being that the success rate for them is like 1 in 10.

Now that I've figured out whom the 2nd company involved in, in this whole dispute. The torch is passed. My friend was the ring leader in the group buys for TurboFord.org.
He has got royally screwed over because 1turbo out of 55 is still being used on a Turbo ford vehicle.

The good deal us TurboForder's got was $440 shipped.
Think the amount of money Brand ZS XSpower made on those shitty ass turbos. Well basically they were forced by threat of a lawsuit to refund all the money to anyone that wanted it. They refunded the money to anyone that had not ran the turbo on their cars at all, thus sealing the deal for them saying it's out of our hands.

My friend is trying to sue the company for contract infringement for not warrantying the turbos.
My friend is getting sued for those turbos not being in or under any warranty.
He's the middle-man in the whole thing but is technically legally liable for any product he distributes.

SSAUTOCHROME stated in an Email to him.
WE DO NOT CONTROL THE ASSET AT HAND, ONLY THEREFORE FORWARD A PRODUCT FROM A SISTER COMPANY AND THE PROBLEM LAYS WITHIN AND AMONG THEM...

This is crap... So my friend no matter what will be out $1000's for the lawyer bills. That's what the counter-sue is for to recoup losses and try to teach SSauto a lesson so to speak.

For awhile we never thought we'd find out who this mysterious sister company was. Then just cruising EBay look what I find!!!!

I know a bunch of people are going to say who gives a ----.
I DO... MY FRIEND was forced to sell his pride and joy completely built tbird because of this ---- and is really just a middle man caught in a bad situation.

I'm trying to help him as much as I can, and he's got a kid on the way and is 1000's in debt.

---- SSAUTOCHROME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
---- TURBO ZY XS POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BURN IN HELL ----------ERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've vented for today!

quadnie 07-19-2004 01:20 AM

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I don't know how much proof that simple ebay listing is going to offer, they could just say "stock photo pulled from google"

Yeah your friend fucked up, the ss-autochrome products look all blingy and have a nice cheap price tag but the saying goes "you get what you paid for". Personally I would be much happier taking my chances on a junkyard turbo or two and getting a spare, in worst case rebuild a turbo myself.

This whole mess is going to be nice and complicated since I'm sure your friend's lawyer has had to contact another lawyer within the state that ss-autochrome resides in. There are some legal forms that you can follow up with, lookup the basic ebay rules for a good idea on fraudulant ----. If I'm not mistaken this is more of a federal matter and contacting the FBI might be an option (I can't remember the process - not compoletely sure).

Good luck with bringing those bastards down, they ---- people over daily, all the poor morons on ebay. The reason why ebay still lets them sell things is because ebay is fucked and is based completely upon the seller. Ebay power sellers opinions and requests out weigh regular ebay buyers everyday, reason: Ebay makes it's money by charging the sellers a fee, if ebay has a power seller that gives them hundreds of dollars each month then ebay really doesn't want to lose that paying member just cause a few pissant members aren't satisfied with their product.

Best recourse for the end users would be to dispute charges with credit card companies and do some searching before you buy something that seems too good to be true.

A fool and his money are soon parted

Dr.Boost 07-19-2004 06:37 AM

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I thought it was common knowledge that they were the same company. When you buy somehting from Xs-power it comes with an SSautochrome invoice with SSautoChrome posted all over the ---- and when you send them money with Paypal it comes up as SSautoChrome on your Paypal receipt. I don't think you just uncovered the mystery Sherlock. :-\
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baldur 07-19-2004 07:07 AM

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I've always found it stupid to have the tag on the compressor outlet, under the output hose....

rudebwoy 07-19-2004 10:23 AM

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[img width=300 height=200]http://www.newbieforces.com/files/Concept3.jpg[/img]

I got this picture off ss auto auction when I bought the manifold from him, so they sell the same products, I thought that it was the same guy just different ID.

TurboneticsTBird 07-19-2004 05:55 PM

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Well I'm not sure at times they feed different lines of b/s every time we talk to em.

Scottsi 07-19-2004 08:03 PM

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i got your safc2, looks great thanks man, lemme know if you need a vouch

TurboneticsTBird 07-20-2004 04:50 AM

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thanks man!

Chris Harris 07-20-2004 02:52 PM

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Talk about a group buy gone bad.

Reddy 07-20-2004 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by xenocron
Talk about a group buy gone bad.


I think the term is group ass raping

Dr.Boost 07-20-2004 03:54 PM

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The funny thing is you can buy them for less than that on their Ebay auctions. :-\
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14Bn4G 07-20-2004 08:19 PM

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why do ppl keep lettin' this company(SSautochrome)---- them??...what about tha better business bureau?? or some $hit like that...WE all know their stuff is ---- and they're STILL makin' gobs of money off of it??....well, like they say "ONLY IN AMERICA"...

quadnie 07-20-2004 08:24 PM

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I like it how Doc boost points out the obvious. Sorry to hear people got fucked but lessons learned

Dr.Boost 07-20-2004 08:55 PM

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If it was so obvious why did they buy 55 of them for $440?

...and I hope you're not trying to deny this post being completely obvious:

I don't know how much proof that simple ebay listing is going to offer, they could just say "stock photo pulled from google"

Yeah your friend fucked up, the ss-autochrome products look all blingy and have a nice cheap price tag but the saying goes "you get what you paid for". Personally I would be much happier taking my chances on a junkyard turbo or two and getting a spare, in worst case rebuild a turbo myself.

This whole mess is going to be nice and complicated since I'm sure your friend's lawyer has had to contact another lawyer within the state that ss-autochrome resides in. There are some legal forms that you can follow up with, lookup the basic ebay rules for a good idea on fraudulant ----. If I'm not mistaken this is more of a federal matter and contacting the FBI might be an option (I can't remember the process - not compoletely sure).

Good luck with bringing those bastards down, they ---- people over daily, all the poor morons on ebay. The reason why ebay still lets them sell things is because ebay is fucked and is based completely upon the seller. Ebay power sellers opinions and requests out weigh regular ebay buyers everyday, reason: Ebay makes it's money by charging the sellers a fee, if ebay has a power seller that gives them hundreds of dollars each month then ebay really doesn't want to lose that paying member just cause a few pissant members aren't satisfied with their product.

Best recourse for the end users would be to dispute charges with credit card companies and do some searching before you buy something that seems too good to be true.
I mean geez...... :-\
http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL564...2/60695067.jpg
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quadnie 07-21-2004 03:31 AM

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LOL ;D ;D

as many people have suffered from this ----, now it's only getting funny.. props for the master of the obvious pic

turbo-maxima 07-21-2004 12:27 PM

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I have never had a problem from buying from that guy. I have bought a catback, some pedals, and I know 100+ other people on our boards that have bought from him.

R-MAK 07-21-2004 12:34 PM

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you guys need to bust your long ass posts down to somthing small like maybe one or two lines. save the long ---- for Quadnie

XDEep 07-22-2004 07:06 PM

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if only people realized that turbos need to be precision balanced and spin upwards of 150,000 rpms..

i wonder how much profit they make on each paper weight. to continue to sell a POS and know it, that is where they will pay for their crimes. i mean a weak manifold can be braced, but a turbo.. i hope things work out for you and your friend. if they don't get what they deserve now, well dont worry, they will somehow, someway, eventually.

quadnie 07-23-2004 01:38 AM

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this was actually a worth while long post read.. if anything it should scare away some potential buyers from purchasing ss-autocrap products. You should change the title of your post to "ss-autochrome; caught in the act" or some ---- like that, make it easier for people to look at this ----. Hell, we just need a whole seperate forum for how they have fucked this person and that person over.. surely there is a website dedicated to that?

kewbee7 07-28-2004 03:10 AM

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Ah ----! are you serious, should've known sooner, I bought an SSautochrome turbo manifold. Will this manifold suck? I hope not. I didnt get a turbo from them, I dont like generic cheap turbos.

HMT-Admin 07-28-2004 03:17 AM

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I used one of those turbos on a friends z6 hatch.. it has been working fine for the past 6 months.. ???

Xplocivic 07-28-2004 09:43 AM

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My friend just got a header for his 02 Altima from SSAutocrap and it looked nice as hell, but after 5 minutes on the car the "stainless" manifold turned gold and purple and black. By the way, it came in a box that said XS Power and SSAutoChrome. I would never buy anything from them, but they got the lock on ebay, thats for sure.

quadnie 07-28-2004 02:17 PM

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yeah, they just sucker in the stupid people.. I guess jeff's boyfriend must have been one of the really really lucky ones ;)

1C61B 07-31-2004 11:38 AM

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TurboneticsTbird- how long ago did you place this group buy? was this recent or a while back?


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