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eshaw 03-04-2009 08:48 AM

Re: car falls flat on its face at full boost
 

Originally Posted by PhilStubbs
most boosted hondas run .025" gap too. mine doesnt though. it likes .018"

plug gap doesnt care what brand of car you have, but more on the conditions inside the cylinder.

try a step colder on your plugs too.

but the car brand might care what plug gap you have.

my plugs are also what was recommended to me by the top focus tuners, so i think they should be fine as well.


Im going to change back to my stock plug wires and see what happens with that. i am glad you guys are suggesting something along the lines of ignition though because thats what everyone else that ive asked is saying too.

Econo-Box 03-04-2009 09:39 AM

Re: car falls flat on its face at full boost
 
Then shut the ---- up carry your ass back to yoru tuner who cant fix it and stop posting you fuckwad. Its a goddamn car if you cant troubleshoot it you probably shouldnt modify one.

Especaily since you can not grasp the concept of spark plug gaps. Its not like you are trying to tune the damn thing.

Just go die.

Econo-Box 03-04-2009 09:42 AM

Re: car falls flat on its face at full boost
 

Originally Posted by eshaw
but the car brand might care what plug gap you have.

my plugs are also what was recommended to me by the top focus tuners, so i think they should be fine as well.


Im going to change back to my stock plug wires and see what happens with that. i am glad you guys are suggesting something along the lines of ignition though because thats what everyone else that ive asked is saying too.

Really? Ignition? You mean like spark plugs????......... I always find it amusing when people cant fix things themselfs but instead of looking for help they look for people to argue concepts and theory instead of actually getting ---- done or fixing it. If its not the spark plugs then im sure your awesome toonar (who cant fix it) knows best.

Smith-02 03-04-2009 02:05 PM

Re: car falls flat on its face at full boost
 
just fill up with a tank of turbo blue and a few bottles of nos octane booster

BoostForLife 03-04-2009 02:14 PM

Re: car falls flat on its face at full boost
 
Try plug wires. Anytime you have something wrong with ignition, always try another set of wires.


BTW: What state are you located in? I have a friend with a focus that wants a chip/reflash for his to make it a little better.

spoolinb18 03-04-2009 05:36 PM

Re: car falls flat on its face at full boost
 
and dont forget the APC sticker across the windshield from advance auto 50+ horsepower

Scott-EP 03-04-2009 05:49 PM

Re: car falls flat on its face at full boost
 

Originally Posted by eshaw
but the car brand might care what plug gap you have.

the car brand might care what "BRAND" plugs you have, but it doesnt care what gap you set them to. combustion conditions dictate that.


Originally Posted by eshaw
my plugs are also what was recommended to me by the top focus tuners, so i think they should be fine as well.

then why cant they recommend something to fix your car?


Originally Posted by eshaw
Im going to change back to my stock plug wires and see what happens with that. i am glad you guys are suggesting something along the lines of ignition though because thats what everyone else that ive asked is saying too.

there is a good chance if that many people give you the same answer, they are right.

it sounds like your mAd tYTe JdM To0n3r$ know more about how to rip off sideways hat tuner bois, rather than actually tune cars.



Tom-Guy 03-04-2009 07:26 PM

Re: car falls flat on its face at full boost
 
Send your Focus friends to me, I'm in Western NC. I like cars and I know my ---- first and foremost, my need to pay my bills and feed my family comes second, and my need to make lots of money to buy toys with comes about forty-ninth.

BoostForLife 03-04-2009 11:38 PM

Re: car falls flat on its face at full boost
 
Yeah, JD
We're in washington and I dont' think my friend want to make a drive to the east coast.
Anyone know somebody in WA or OR that does fords?
He wants some expensive chip in his pile of ----, I keep telling him to find a domestic tuning shop and try to reflash or get a chip from them, will be much cheaper and better, too.

HiProfile 03-05-2009 02:24 AM

Re: car falls flat on its face at full boost
 

Originally Posted by eshaw
but the car brand might care what plug gap you have.

Not a ------- chance when it comes to SMALLER gaps. The only thing that cares is the god-damned coil, and that's rarely made by Ford, Honda, etc - usually by some odd brand. Since its a ford, its probably some Mexican ---- like Buckley you get from autozone for $0.59 in the clearance bin. PhillStubbs probably is using a CDM coil he got from his Chinese maffia people - it works the same, only differently lol. (j/k Phill)

The way boost, coil, and plug gap all works: boost increases the density inside the cylinder. The spark has far more atoms to zap through, and the coil says "oi, decrease the gap fucktard!" in the manner of stuttering like an invalid child you. You then decease gap. I don't really give a flying ---- if your boy wrote the entire 2-page novel on Foci tuning, he wasn't even shitting in diapers when the turbocharged gasoline engine was on its way to being perfected in racing, and he obviously never wrote a paragraph of how electricity jumps between electrodes. The worst thing that will happen with a tiny gap like that is a 1-2% loss in power where a larger gap could be used, such as high vacuum cruising.




Originally Posted by 97EconoBox
they look for people to argue concepts and theory instead of actually getting ---- done.

lo---------l. I feel the same way, I call it the silver bullet syndrome. They're so hell-bent on finding out what's the exact cause, they never try anything that doesn't appear to be the silver bullet at first glance. Rarely is there a silver bullet - its usually like a hail of buckshot. I had a similar as this Focus issue with my first uberdata tune. I eventually said ---- it, downshifted and BAM i was burning rubber. Turns out my vtec map's timing was fine, but the low-cam map had all -6* timing for boost. Uberdata was one tricky bitch.




Originally Posted by BoostForLife
Anyone know somebody in WA or OR that does fords?

Its really too bad you don't live near the OP. Apparently his tuner wrote the book on boosted Fords. For the sake of the OP, maybe he'll write a book on how to FIX the cars soon, too. :S


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