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WestTXSR20 08-24-2009 04:37 PM

Can I get an expert opinion please?
 
I am using T25 off an SR20 for my D15 with a Y7 head. I want to run 7 psi maybe 10 on occasion.

My question is will my H22 injectors I have 290cc be enough?

I have no fuel pump or pressure regualator upgrades. I am going to ordered a tunned ECU once I get it all together. 450cc injectors seems like too much for such a small engine and low boost. I don't want to be smoking or have rough idle since this will be dailey driven. On the other hand leaning out and frying your pistons sucks to. Sorry for the newb question.

bulletproof1013 08-24-2009 05:07 PM

your gonna order a pre-tuned ECU? :0

WestTXSR20 08-24-2009 06:46 PM

Yes from Phearable.net

bulletproof1013 08-24-2009 07:32 PM

im not finding anything that is "pre-tuned" on that site.

HMTsol 08-24-2009 07:57 PM

290cc no good even 450cc are only good up to 10psi. use DSM ingectors they are 450cc from mitsubishi eclipse for cheep.

And you have to tune it other vise big BOOM. good luck

WestTXSR20 08-24-2009 08:13 PM

Thanks. I am glad I checked. As far as the smoking, idle, gas mileage, what can I expect w/ a turbo D15?

HMTsol 08-24-2009 10:03 PM

Everithing is gonna be smooth if you use your stock OBD1 ECU chip it and at least street tune it. But remember no catalic converter you dont need back presure, too much back presure couze detonatin. And if you can, use external wastegate its gonna keep your boost more study.

With right tuner your car shuld idle perfect and gas milige yah its gonna eat a little maybe insted of 35mpg your gonna get 28-30mpg it depends how you drive. more boost more gas you know.

40 psi 4g63 08-24-2009 10:19 PM

450 injectors junk the 290 and nothing is pretunes...

there are to many veriables to each motor and set up. get it tuned after ward

40 psi 4g63 08-24-2009 10:22 PM


Originally Posted by HMTsol (Post 1284959)
Everithing is gonna be smooth if you use your stock OBD1 ECU chip it and at least street tune it. But remember no catalic converter you dont need back presure, too much back presure couze detonatin. And if you can, use external wastegate its gonna keep your boost more study.

With right tuner your car shuld idle perfect and gas milige yah its gonna eat a little maybe insted of 35mpg your gonna get 28-30mpg it depends how you drive. more boost more gas you know.

No such thing as to much back pressure, it just limits hp, spool and power.

Theres other factors in detionation your not edumacated on yet

HMTsol 08-25-2009 12:06 AM


Originally Posted by 40 psi 4g63 (Post 1284969)
450 injectors junk the 290 and nothing is pretunes...

there are to many veriables to each motor and set up. get it tuned after ward

Show me your hmt project....



Oh yah you never had one lol

WestTXSR20 08-25-2009 10:36 AM

We use Phearable.net here all the time for our Hondas. Its not as good as getting a street tune but it's better than nothing. I don't have the ECU for a Z6 head so I got to buy one any ways. You just e-mail them what you got turbo, Intake, cams, injector size, Rev limit ect. and they send send you a base mapped pre tunned ECU. I know I said Y7 head. I am not normally a D Series guy but my friends gave all this awsome D Series stuff they had left over and I have done so many SR20 swaps and U/Gs I figured why not turbo it? I got nothing but time these days and very little money. I want to smoke some B and H series aroiund here.

WestTXSR20 08-25-2009 10:45 AM

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WestTXSR20 08-25-2009 10:53 AM

Has any one ever used SR20 injectors? I have tons of those laying around. I have turboed many cars but I have always just bought a kit or swapped a motor into them. This the first attempt at an HMT. I also want to hide the turbo and piping so that when you look under the hood you can not see the U/Gs. I am rebuilding the engine, adding VTEC, and adding AC cause it's too damm hot here. I have 4 cars and none of them have AC.

WestTXSR20 08-25-2009 10:59 AM

Never mind SR20 injectors are only 259cc. Here is the link for Phearable.net you might have missed.

Phearable.net - Electronic Fuel Injection Tuning Solutions - Hondata, Neptune, Crome, Uberdata, Ectune, AEM, Honda Tuning, Widebands, Fuel Pumps, Intercoolers, Turbos, LS/VTEC, ECU Chipping, Chipped Ecus, P28

bulletproof1013 08-25-2009 11:05 AM

well at least you got some head studs lol

JON_S13EF 08-25-2009 11:30 AM

Most Nissan uses Side Feed injectors and since there are no such type of rail for Honda it will not work. Besides people upgrade from side feed to top feed why go the other way LOL..

WestTXSR20 08-25-2009 12:32 PM

It looks like I am going to have to spend more money than. Maybe I can trade for some. I am trying to do all this for under $300. So far so good. What about an FPR? On 240SXs they don't do much unless you have them dyno tuned for the most part. Is an FPR a must? And do I really have to get a faster fuel pump?

FYI...That head gasket is suppose to be a $300 head gasket as well.

WestTXSR20 08-25-2009 01:03 PM

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turbof22a 08-25-2009 07:52 PM

my expert opinion is to not listen to either hmtsol or bulletdoucshe1013

WestTXSR20 08-25-2009 08:00 PM

ha ha and noted.

HMTsol 08-25-2009 08:19 PM

Make sure you make a right choise, caz I dont care

bulletproof1013 08-25-2009 08:31 PM

i can give a ---- either . i just said " at least you got some arp head bolts" and a bunch of other junk is what it looks like.
and for turbo f22 is that all you do ? every post or anything that i reply on you have some gay ass ---- to say. Haha you never have anything useful to say , so ill be waiting on your gay ass reply back , you will prolly say the same thing you always say. LAMEO!

HMTsol 08-25-2009 09:27 PM

I think he just jelues... lol

bulletproof1013 08-25-2009 10:00 PM

I bet that he doesn't even work on his own car hahahahaha. what a dufus. come on f22 who even uses that engine anymore lmfao. stock ass accord. or are u gonna tell me u got it fully built with a h22 head running 22 psi and making a 8 second f22 . SAVE IT .

HMTsol 08-25-2009 10:53 PM

lol

kona447 08-26-2009 12:36 AM

and im sure at this point he wants to fight u too haha

WestTXSR20 08-26-2009 12:04 PM

Wow I was just asking for good advice. I don't care who it comes from as long as it's good advice. I am a grown ass man w/ kids and no money. I don't have time for this High School BS. I love to see your guys' set ups ,and I appreciate everyone's help so far. I am currently hunting down 1G DSM injectors.

My questions is:

Is an FPR a must have for my set up?

silver1 08-26-2009 02:01 PM

No..your stock FPR is OK for your set up.

WestTXSR20 08-26-2009 04:58 PM

Thanks:)

turbof22a 08-27-2009 12:52 AM


Originally Posted by bulletproof1013 (Post 1285082)
I bet that he doesn't even work on his own car hahahahaha. what a dufus. come on f22 who even uses that engine anymore lmfao. stock ass accord. or are u gonna tell me u got it fully built with a h22 head running 22 psi and making a 8 second f22 . SAVE IT .

are you asking who uses the f22? how bout bisi i his all motor drag car? your an idiot i forgot more about forced induction and engine swaps then you ever knew

esi42 08-27-2009 04:34 AM

Manifold:

Civic Crx Del Sol d15 d16 Cast Turbo Manifold SOHC D:eBay Motors (item 160358435965 end time Sep-02-09 12:31:54 PDT)

Adapter:

hf t25, Parts Accessories - buy and sell on eBay Motors

450s

dsm 450, great deals on eBay Motors, Air Intake Fuel Delivery on eBay!

Fab a downpipe, intercooler piping, oil lines, buy a bov, and youre done.

Basemaps are never perfect. If you do boost on one, make sure you have a wideband so you can verify a safe boosted afr.

Or you can use this ebay d16 t25 manifold without an adapter:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/civic...Q5fAccessories

bulletproof1013 08-27-2009 06:32 AM

ohh I didn't know u had a drag car. I forgot u get your daddy to give u all kinds of money

esi42 08-27-2009 06:53 AM

I feel bad for the original poster of this thread. He just asked a couple simple questions and all he got was politics.

socalintegra 08-27-2009 07:21 AM

Are you running a stock fuel pump? I would pick up a 255lph FP for added insurance.

WestTXSR20 08-27-2009 09:19 AM

Yay I asked about the fuel pump a few pages ago. I might be able to get a Walbro from a buddy. Is there any other fuel pump I can jack from a wrecked car on the cheap? Example: a Toyota Supra fuel pump?

WestTXSR20 08-27-2009 09:24 AM

I can see after mocking every thing up that inorder to keep AC the down pipe will be really really tight, or I lose AC for now, or I get another manifold. I am leaning towards no AC for now since it's will be cool by the time I get the car on the road.

BoostGear 08-27-2009 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by WestTXSR20 (Post 1285251)
I can see after mocking every thing up that inorder to keep AC the down pipe will be really really tight, or I lose AC for now, or I get another manifold. I am leaning towards no AC for now since it's will be cool by the time I get the car on the road.

Toss the A.C., it's extra weight regardless.

Lt. Dangle 08-27-2009 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by BoostGear (Post 1285266)
Toss the A.C., it's extra weight regardless.

I agree 100%.

---- A/C.

WestTXSR20 08-27-2009 11:10 PM

I really need AC in West Texas. I was 107 today. I have a car with out AC, carpet, interoir, CD player, ect already for kicking ass. I just want to pep up my dailey driver.

WestTXSR20 08-27-2009 11:16 PM

My first snag. The cam wasn't turning like it should today when reassembled the engine. So I took off the cam caps as outlined in the FSM and chunks of the caps just came off. Long story short this rebuilt Z6 head is fucked. I have a Y8 head but it needs lots of pieces and I think it requires one head stud I don't have. Can you order just one head stub from ARP?


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