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92HondaEX 02-15-2006 02:43 PM

Can anybody id this turbo?
 
I need a very small turbo for a very small turbo setup and need something like this, but not sure what to call it...
http://www.mjmturbos.com/images/SMALLEST.jpg

sixsick6 02-15-2006 03:26 PM

Re: Can anybody id this turbo?
 
Thats an RHB3 of some sort used on Suzuki, Isuzu, Daihatsu, also on Yanmar (boat applications). Call them up and ask them for the spec. It could be anything from an AY71 to a VZ9, it seems like it's definately an RHB3 though.

92HondaEX 02-15-2006 05:10 PM

Re: Can anybody id this turbo?
 

Originally Posted by sixsick6
Thats an RHB3 of some sort used on Suzuki, Isuzu, Daihatsu, also on Yanmar (boat applications). Call them up and ask them for the spec. It could be anything from an AY71 to a VZ9, it seems like it's definately an RHB3 though.

Here's some parts list for em...
http://www.turbomaster.info/eng/cata...hi&pagina=RHB3

What's the smallest ihi rhb3 is there? I need one for a really small turbo setup.

Toysrme 02-15-2006 06:37 PM

Re: Can anybody id this turbo?
 
Yep RHB3.
IDK what it's from, sixsick is the resitend expert.
RHB3's are also extremely common on small diesel applications. They're used by many makers on skid-steers (Bobcats), and small loaders/auger equipment, generators etc.

92HondaEX 02-16-2006 12:07 AM

Re: Can anybody id this turbo?
 

Originally Posted by Toysrme
Yep RHB3.
IDK what it's from, sixsick is the resitend expert.
RHB3's are also extremely common on small diesel applications. They're used by many makers on skid-steers (Bobcats), and small loaders/auger equipment, generators etc.

Well good then, now I don't feel embarressed using this little sucker on my project...

sixsick6 02-16-2006 04:07 AM

Re: Can anybody id this turbo?
 

Originally Posted by Toysrme
Yep SixSick6 is the resitend expert.

The word you're looking for is resident, and I'm no expert nor am I perfect, I just know alot, and I know it.. ;)


Originally Posted by Toysrme
RHB3's are also extremely common on small diesel applications. They're used by many makers on skid-steers (Bobcats), and small loaders/auger equipment, generators etc.

Very true. Not many people realize that turbochargers extend FAR past HMT Honda's.

Depending on what you're installing it on, the RHB3 "family" are good for 5 m³/min max which equates to roughly 175 CFM max (choke). You're on your own as far as VE for the motor that you're installing it on, but the RHB3 family are commonly found on motors smaller than 1.5L but can be used as high as 1.6L. It would be worthless to do so but they're installed on such motors to give the "wow" effect and make you "feel" like you're getting some torque out of what would normally be less than a 100 or so hp engine.

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/4548/ihi5lm.jpg

hotrex 02-16-2006 04:36 AM

Re: Can anybody id this turbo?
 
that turbo is too small for any practical performance application

sixsick6 02-16-2006 05:55 AM

Re: Can anybody id this turbo?
 
That's the point. I doubt he's using on a car to begin with, I hope?

hotrex 02-16-2006 06:02 AM

Re: Can anybody id this turbo?
 
its undersized for a ------ 5 hp briggs.

sixsick6 02-16-2006 06:29 AM

Re: Can anybody id this turbo?
 
Actually it's not. It would be perfect for a 1.5~1.6L Honda with minimal boost looking to gain 10+ hp

92HondaEX 02-16-2006 07:52 AM

Re: Can anybody id this turbo?
 

Originally Posted by hotrex
its undersized for a ------ 5 hp briggs.

funny you should say that, that what I plan to use.... ;-) I just now gonna find one(small turbo).

horrse 02-16-2006 09:16 AM

Re: Can anybody id this turbo?
 
dude that's an awesome project, i wouldn't mind doing one just to see what happens

92HondaEX 02-16-2006 09:55 AM

Re: Can anybody id this turbo?
 

Originally Posted by horrse
dude that's an awesome project, i wouldn't mind doing one just to see what happens

yea....we'll see, I'm currently having family problems right now.

hotrex 02-16-2006 12:12 PM

Re: Can anybody id this turbo?
 

Originally Posted by sixsick6
Actually it's not. It would be perfect for a 1.5~1.6L Honda with minimal boost looking to gain 10+ hp


hahaha 10 hp. the thing would fall off and suck at 3000 rpm.

jmhalder 02-16-2006 03:48 PM

Re: Can anybody id this turbo?
 
my KA24DE + SR t25 = INSTASPOOL
your briggs + RHB3 = INSTASPOOL

Toysrme 02-16-2006 04:56 PM

Re: Can anybody id this turbo?
 
Relatively small turbo + relatively big engine is not stupid.
It's not about gaining lots of peak power. It's about gaining low end.

Look at the diesel applications it's used in... On a Bobcat, the IHI rhb3 & rhb4 are only used to gain 6-10bhp peak. The point is that they double / triple the output at low RPM, where they need it. Diesel engines on equipment doesn't run at max horsepower rpm... They run at idle, peak torque, and anywhere in between.
2.2L N/A runs 46bhp
2.0L turbo (rhb3) runs 56bhp
But the torque is doubled.
The difference driving one is huge. I do it on a near daily basis much of the year.

Without the turbo, you try to scrape too much, and you bog down to a stop as the hydraulic system takes too much power, or you bearly get through.
With a turbo you scrape too much, you bog down & the more you bog down, the more torque you get.
Since you normally only run 2/3-3/4 "bunny speed" the difference the turbo makes is flat out huuuuuuuge.
You've got more power at 2/3 bunny running way less rpm on the turbo as soon as it spools, than you do at wide open bunny on the NA..


The same goes for cars... Look at Saab's single bank turbo v6. Started with a GT15, then a GT17 @ 3.75psi. It wasn't about gaining peak horsepower. It was about doubling power from the previous generation engine @ 1500rpm. There's more to FI than the "typical" honda that makes really piss-poor power output (even for i4's) while it's N/A for half it's powerband. Then *finally* get enough exhaust flowing to do something with a turbo.



Anyways, ya on anything but small car engine's, all you'd be gaining with an IHI would be low end power & unless you had a really big wastegate, or simply only hooked the turbine up to a couple cylinders. It'd choke like craze. On something like a small bike, or ATV, or whatever. It'd be pretty kickass. Even if it were undersized a bit, the amount of grunt gained would be phenom.

92HondaEX 02-16-2006 05:06 PM

Re: Can anybody id this turbo?
 

Originally Posted by Toysrme
Relatively small turbo + relatively big engine is not stupid.
It's not about gaining lots of peak power. It's about gaining low end.

Look at the diesel applications it's used in... On a Bobcat, the IHI rhb3 & rhb4 are only used to gain 6-10bhp peak. The point is that they double / triple the output at low RPM, where they need it. Diesel engines on equipment doesn't run at max horsepower rpm... They run at idle, peak torque, and anywhere in between.
2.2L N/A runs 46bhp
2.0L turbo (rhb3) runs 56bhp
But the torque is doubled.
The difference driving one is huge. I do it on a near daily basis much of the year.

Without the turbo, you try to scrape too much, and you bog down to a stop as the hydraulic system takes too much power, or you bearly get through.
With a turbo you scrape too much, you bog down & the more you bog down, the more torque you get.
Since you normally only run 2/3-3/4 "bunny speed" the difference the turbo makes is flat out huuuuuuuge.
You've got more power at 2/3 bunny running way less rpm on the turbo as soon as it spools, than you do at wide open bunny.


The same goes for cars... Look at Saab's single bank turbo v6. Started with a GT15, then a GT17 @ 3.75psi. It wasn't about gaining peak horsepower. It was about doubling power from the previous generation engine @ 1500rpm. There's more to FI than the "typical" honda that stays N/A for half it's powerband. Then *finally* get enough exhaust flowing to do something with a turbo.



Anyways, ya on anything but small car engine's, all you'd be gaining with an IHI would be low end power & unless you had a really big wastegate, or simply only hooked the turbine up to a couple cylinders. It'd choke like craze. On something like a small bike, or ATV, or whatever. It'd be pretty kickass. Even if it were undersized a bit, the amount of grunt gained would be phenom.

Well said....I also thought the "bunny speed" was funny.

aggrevated87 02-16-2006 06:55 PM

Re: Can anybody id this turbo?
 
try looking for one of these also.sounds like it would be good for your application.
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...9773#msg559773

i sold it on ebay within an hour with buy it now for like 175.guy said they were hard to find though.i could have got more $ for that bitch.lol

92HondaEX 02-16-2006 09:20 PM

Re: Can anybody id this turbo?
 
how does it compare to a rhb3?

92HondaEX 02-24-2006 02:39 PM

Re: Can anybody id this turbo?
 
I told my dad of this awsome plan and he thinks it's stupid....I found out that our riding mower is a 18hp not 5hp...

Toysrme 02-24-2006 03:39 PM

Re: Can anybody id this turbo?
 
Hahahahahahahaha I see you got the turbo, based on your sig.
Look at it this way... Two forged pistons & rods are cheaper than 6, or 8. ;)





































































































btw that is a ------- annoying sig dude. Crop the picture, and then make the crop smaller.


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