borg warner turbo specs???
03-07-2007, 03:05 PM
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Re: borg warner turbo specs???
Originally Posted by BLAAST
actually sometimes, I do pay over 200$ for good junkyard GM 6.5 turbos. i think they are Worth it. A good rebuild for peace of mind and they can bring you in the 300, even 400 WHP range easily and with a BETTER reliability than a standard garrett t3/t4 because they're ALL quipped with the bolted down 360° thrust plate from the factory.
I also like factory turbos that come rated in those power ranges because they have bigger shafts than the T3/T04x hybrids, which lends to longevity and reliability.
03-08-2007, 04:13 AM
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Re: borg warner turbo specs???
Originally Posted by BLAAST
actually sometimes, I do pay over 200$ for good junkyard GM 6.5 turbos. i think they are Worth it. A good rebuild for peace of mind and they can bring you in the 300, even 400 WHP range easily and with a BETTER reliability than a standard garrett t3/t4 because they're ALL quipped with the bolted down 360° thrust plate from the factory.
03-08-2007, 07:31 AM
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Re: borg warner turbo specs???
oh, yes, i know MANY people who did over 400 WHP with that borg turbo. Notably, 480 whp on a camry.
Is it maxed out by then? Yes, it sure is. but it's able of it.
and you MR. "I have seen it all",
do you still think this Borg turbo is equivalent to a t04B s trim
:1
Is it maxed out by then? Yes, it sure is. but it's able of it.
and you MR. "I have seen it all",
do you still think this Borg turbo is equivalent to a t04B s trim
:1
03-08-2007, 07:41 AM
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Re: borg warner turbo specs???
Diesel turbos are oriented to higher pressure ratios... lemme guess, the 480whp Camry ran low to mid 20's worth of boost? If still residing on the compressor map at that point, that's not enough to get all the flow out of a diesel turbo. There is a reason diesel trucks run boost gauges that max out at 40-60 psi. :1
The record on HX35 is, last I checked, 500 whp despite the fact the maps obviously go higher. Between you, me, and the deep blue sea, it's good for 550 or more if you have a 4 bar MAP and are forceful and manlike when touching the boost controller.
The record on HX35 is, last I checked, 500 whp despite the fact the maps obviously go higher. Between you, me, and the deep blue sea, it's good for 550 or more if you have a 4 bar MAP and are forceful and manlike when touching the boost controller.
03-08-2007, 09:53 AM
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Re: borg warner turbo specs???
JD, Yes, actually Ben with his camry was running 25+ psi for 480 whp and costa made 434 whp at 24 psi on a mr2. all on the borg. I did run 27 psi on a h22 for MANY months with no problems so yes, they are HIGH BOOST READY.
But 400+ WHP on a GM BOrg is pushing it. We all agree on that. if you aim for over 400 WHP, you should pick much bigger than a GM borg. You're right: Sounds like some very common junkyard HOLSETS can outflow it. I had many reports of that too.
What'S your experience with the gm 6.5 turbo? Did you ever used one? how did it work?
But 400+ WHP on a GM BOrg is pushing it. We all agree on that. if you aim for over 400 WHP, you should pick much bigger than a GM borg. You're right: Sounds like some very common junkyard HOLSETS can outflow it. I had many reports of that too.
What'S your experience with the gm 6.5 turbo? Did you ever used one? how did it work?
03-08-2007, 05:36 PM
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Re: borg warner turbo specs???
There's no good shaft play.
A used gm turbo always needs rebuild no mather what because this 6.5 engine was BAD: It was compressing in the pan, making these turbos notorious for carbon build ups behind the turbine wheel. Many such gm turbos are found in junk yards because owners thought the turbo was bad but it was actually their engine!
The borgs normally work flawlessly with shaft play up to around 0.02" That's very few play. after that, piston ring wears out and it starts leaking. Insist a little more, the wheels will start rubbing and that's when the value of the turbo really starts falling and the rebuild prices climbing beyond economical common sense.
A used gm turbo always needs rebuild no mather what because this 6.5 engine was BAD: It was compressing in the pan, making these turbos notorious for carbon build ups behind the turbine wheel. Many such gm turbos are found in junk yards because owners thought the turbo was bad but it was actually their engine!
The borgs normally work flawlessly with shaft play up to around 0.02" That's very few play. after that, piston ring wears out and it starts leaking. Insist a little more, the wheels will start rubbing and that's when the value of the turbo really starts falling and the rebuild prices climbing beyond economical common sense.
