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Old 03-16-2009, 05:42 PM
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Ok so a while ago I started having a problem when getting on the car in boost, not just wot but when I would get over like 5psi(using 7.25 spring) the car would feel like its misfiring sort of. Im using a tial 38mm wastegate with an extension pipe so its a divorced setup. I thought it was turbo related since it started when I put a different turbo on, so even tried another turbo which I had planned to but still happens. I tried a new gasket where the extension bolts to the manifold and even used copper rtv, and it still did it; didnt replace the gasket between wg and extension pipe cause I never realy needed to unbolt them.

Whats funny is once I forgot to retighten the wg extension to the manifold and it stopped the misfiring/backfiring feeling at wot, just sounded like *** cause there was a leak. Kinda sounded like a turbo honda with open dp haha plus boost was a little lower and kinda fell off. Does this sound like something wrong with the wastegate or any other ideas?

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Old 03-16-2009, 11:03 PM
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try a different wastegate... if that doesn't change it then take a look at your tune, since you changed snails.
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Old 03-17-2009, 09:27 AM
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Does it have the fire ring installed?
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Old 03-17-2009, 09:44 AM
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Yes the fire ring is installed. Could any parts of the wg going bad cause this, diaphragm or something? My friend has a godspeed or whatever its called wg, maybe Ill give that a shot and see what happens.

I would also like to get a smaller size wastegate for different mounting purposes, anyone know if the turbonetics evolution is smaller in height/width than a standard tial 38mm? I love the new tial 38mm vband thats like a little over 3.5" tall, but dont like the price tag and v-band lol.
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Diaphrams go bad or get pinched. Had one on a tial gate pinched from the factory
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Old 03-17-2009, 05:34 PM
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Does this sound like a problem that could be causing this? Ive heard of diaphragm problems and causing spikes but nothing like this.
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Old 03-17-2009, 05:53 PM
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Wastegates don't just go bad. Sounds like an ignition problem. What are your plugs gapped to?
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Old 03-17-2009, 06:15 PM
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Well I understand that. My plugs are gapped at .030 or .027, cant remember. Ive dealt with the gap problem a while ago and took care of it, I have an external coil swap from the coil on plug setup which is why its much lower.

If its ignition related, why would it not be a problem when theres a leak pre wastegate?
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Old 03-17-2009, 07:30 PM
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Higher cylinder pressures require smaller plug gaps and more power from the coil to fire. When you add boost pressure you have to make the plug gap smaller. You should have your plugs set to .025".

The reason the problem went away when the wastegate was leaking is cause the boost pressure wasn't as high so it didnt take as much power to spark.
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Old 03-17-2009, 08:05 PM
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I never raised the boost when changing turbo's. And when the wg leaked there was only about 1 to maybe 2 psi loss. Ill pull the plugs and check them, Im running tr6's. And since Ive been boosted(even when sc'd) I always started with a higher gap and gapped them down from there to reduce spark blowout.
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