Is This A Bad Idea??
01-01-2006, 09:52 PM
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Is This A Bad Idea??
I had an idea but im not sure if its good and safe.
Basically, I want to do as much labour by myself as I can when it comes to installing my turbo. However, I live in an apartment building, without access to power tools.
Now I'm going to have to go and have a custom downpipe made anyways, so the guys doing it will need to remove my headers and attach the turbo right? So what I was thinking was, could they just attach the exhaust side of my turbo, without touching the intake side and leave it like that?
That way I would already have the turbo in place, and I can just drive home, and finish installing the rest of the stuff like the intercooler and what not.
Im guessing I will also need the guys to install all the oil lines, and water lines for cooling because the turbine will still be spinning and i dont want it to mess up.
So is this a good or bad idea?
Basically, I want to do as much labour by myself as I can when it comes to installing my turbo. However, I live in an apartment building, without access to power tools.
Now I'm going to have to go and have a custom downpipe made anyways, so the guys doing it will need to remove my headers and attach the turbo right? So what I was thinking was, could they just attach the exhaust side of my turbo, without touching the intake side and leave it like that?
That way I would already have the turbo in place, and I can just drive home, and finish installing the rest of the stuff like the intercooler and what not.
Im guessing I will also need the guys to install all the oil lines, and water lines for cooling because the turbine will still be spinning and i dont want it to mess up.
So is this a good or bad idea?
01-01-2006, 10:02 PM
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Re: Is This A Bad Idea??
from my point of view yes, its a bad idea, it really doesnt take that long to swap off a header fab a downpipe, and then re install the header.
the only time i have driven home on just an open turbo was when a charge pipe blew off, but it is still risky because of the excessive unloaded compressor speeds it sees.
if youre gonna go thru all the trouble of hooking up all the water and oil lines there, then just finish it there, or leave it there till the next day, or tow it.
what is your set up, there isnt too many Downpipes i have seen that are all that hard to make, 2 90 degree elbow bends, and a flange, little welding, done
the only time i have driven home on just an open turbo was when a charge pipe blew off, but it is still risky because of the excessive unloaded compressor speeds it sees.
if youre gonna go thru all the trouble of hooking up all the water and oil lines there, then just finish it there, or leave it there till the next day, or tow it.
what is your set up, there isnt too many Downpipes i have seen that are all that hard to make, 2 90 degree elbow bends, and a flange, little welding, done
01-02-2006, 10:24 AM
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Re: Is This A Bad Idea??
so basically your going to run, and open header (which is LOUD) then install the turbo, and have them make the down pipe.
well.. do what you must.. but I dont think thats a good I dea..then again everyone situation is different..
I would just install everything there
well.. do what you must.. but I dont think thats a good I dea..then again everyone situation is different..
I would just install everything there
01-02-2006, 01:40 PM
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Re: Is This A Bad Idea??
Prior to install, all you really need welded is the bung to your oil pan (maybe) and your BOV to your intercooler piping.
I cut all my piping with a hacksaw and cleaned up the ends with a dremel. I use a ton of couplers and clamps too
You can drive to your welder with an open exhaust for thew downpipe, but it will be loud. By the way, you will install the header and turbo. Your welder will just create a pipe that runs from the exhaust side to your exhaust.
Skip the cooling lines for now and installing oil lines from a kit is a breeze.
Just don't boost until everything is solid, installed and tuned.
(If you didn't figure it out from my post, install your kit and drive it to your welder. Have them do the downpipe and then go out and tune it!)
I cut all my piping with a hacksaw and cleaned up the ends with a dremel. I use a ton of couplers and clamps too
You can drive to your welder with an open exhaust for thew downpipe, but it will be loud. By the way, you will install the header and turbo. Your welder will just create a pipe that runs from the exhaust side to your exhaust.
Skip the cooling lines for now and installing oil lines from a kit is a breeze.
Just don't boost until everything is solid, installed and tuned.
(If you didn't figure it out from my post, install your kit and drive it to your welder. Have them do the downpipe and then go out and tune it!)
01-02-2006, 02:24 PM
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Re: Is This A Bad Idea??
Well, what im asking is the opposite of running open turbo. I will have an exhaust.
I need a custom downpipe made no matter what. So when the guys are making it, they will need to take off my headers, and attach my turbo to the turbo manifold, and attach that to my engine. Once they do that they can fabricate a downpipe.
Then, after they are finished the downpipe, I was thinking they could attach the downpipe to my exhaust, and to my turbo, since they will already be on the car.
Now when they do that, I will have the entire exhaust side of the turbo done. Manifold, turbo, downpipe, exhaust. However, the intake side will stay unconnected. I will have no charge pipes, no intercooler, nothing.
Basically the compressor wheel will be spinning, but I wont be making any boost. I will still have my airbox, and the engine will be sucking in air through that. Once I get home, I will hook up the intake side.
So would it be ok to drive like this? Probably only from the shop to my house.
The way I see it, it should be fine, because im not making any boost. The only slight problem might be that the compressor wheel will be restricting my exhaust flow, but besides that i really dont see a downside. But thats why im asking :P
I need a custom downpipe made no matter what. So when the guys are making it, they will need to take off my headers, and attach my turbo to the turbo manifold, and attach that to my engine. Once they do that they can fabricate a downpipe.
Then, after they are finished the downpipe, I was thinking they could attach the downpipe to my exhaust, and to my turbo, since they will already be on the car.
Now when they do that, I will have the entire exhaust side of the turbo done. Manifold, turbo, downpipe, exhaust. However, the intake side will stay unconnected. I will have no charge pipes, no intercooler, nothing.
Basically the compressor wheel will be spinning, but I wont be making any boost. I will still have my airbox, and the engine will be sucking in air through that. Once I get home, I will hook up the intake side.
So would it be ok to drive like this? Probably only from the shop to my house.
The way I see it, it should be fine, because im not making any boost. The only slight problem might be that the compressor wheel will be restricting my exhaust flow, but besides that i really dont see a downside. But thats why im asking :P
01-02-2006, 02:39 PM
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Re: Is This A Bad Idea??
Originally Posted by Premium Dude
Well, what im asking is the opposite of running open turbo. I will have an exhaust.
I need a custom downpipe made no matter what. So when the guys are making it, they will need to take off my headers, and attach my turbo to the turbo manifold, and attach that to my engine. Once they do that they can fabricate a downpipe.
Then, after they are finished the downpipe, I was thinking they could attach the downpipe to my exhaust, and to my turbo, since they will already be on the car.
Now when they do that, I will have the entire exhaust side of the turbo done. Manifold, turbo, downpipe, exhaust. However, the intake side will stay unconnected. I will have no charge pipes, no intercooler, nothing.
Basically the compressor wheel will be spinning, but I wont be making any boost. I will still have my airbox, and the engine will be sucking in air through that. Once I get home, I will hook up the intake side.
So would it be ok to drive like this? Probably only from the shop to my house.
The way I see it, it should be fine, because im not making any boost. The only slight problem might be that the compressor wheel will be restricting my exhaust flow, but besides that i really dont see a downside. But thats why im asking :P
I need a custom downpipe made no matter what. So when the guys are making it, they will need to take off my headers, and attach my turbo to the turbo manifold, and attach that to my engine. Once they do that they can fabricate a downpipe.
Then, after they are finished the downpipe, I was thinking they could attach the downpipe to my exhaust, and to my turbo, since they will already be on the car.
Now when they do that, I will have the entire exhaust side of the turbo done. Manifold, turbo, downpipe, exhaust. However, the intake side will stay unconnected. I will have no charge pipes, no intercooler, nothing.
Basically the compressor wheel will be spinning, but I wont be making any boost. I will still have my airbox, and the engine will be sucking in air through that. Once I get home, I will hook up the intake side.
So would it be ok to drive like this? Probably only from the shop to my house.
The way I see it, it should be fine, because im not making any boost. The only slight problem might be that the compressor wheel will be restricting my exhaust flow, but besides that i really dont see a downside. But thats why im asking :P
