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I threw this together in about an hour, Ive had the parts laying around for years, I decided to put them to good use!
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This lil doo-hicky below is one of the BEST things for a simple setup. LIke $5 from PetSmart, looks half blingin and works ------ AWESOME for T-ing things out. Its similar to a vaccum manifold, except you just flip the lever, and you can open/close a vac. line. Ive used them as boost controllers as well =) 1 lever open usually = 1psi increase ;)
I said SIMPLE setups, Im not sure I would trust it about 5-6 psi.
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AWD axis-spin donuts are VERY FUN :)

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bwahahaha, bungee boost gauge ;D why don't you sell me those rims.

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That car is Ghetto...damn you got a lot of rust man.
The rims are nice though.
Nice setup...it's easy having no intercooler ;)

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Ha, cool ----! how's the pull on that bad boy? mad sleeper ;) i likes..

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Im diggin it. Get a video lol.

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On a dirt road, drop the clutch at 5k, sit there for a few seconds, turn the wheel, start axis spinning. Nuff said :)
On pavement, I have yet to break traction, and YES IVE TRIED.
Video will be up when snow flies!
Got the car for free, Im not showin the car off, but jst the fact that Im a crazy fucker for boosting it :P

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yes indeed! ;D

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Like I said to you on honda-tech... you NEED at least 5psi :P


VIDEO TIME!!!

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by the way what turbo is that??? t25? how many pounds you pushing?

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you didn't get banned for posting that on ht??

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welcome to HMT tinker. u make some sexy manifolds ;D


hows the AWD h22 del sol coming? 8)

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Has anyone tried this - how hard would it be to transplate the drivetrain into a 5th or 6th gen civic? Would the tranny bolt up? :D

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Sweet man thats what I'm talkin about SLEEPER I know it was just for fun but you should maybe put a little more into the turbo setup and engine. Maybe intercool it and raise the boost a little.As for the tranny into another car, yes, it is a D series tranny so it wil bolt to your engine, use the newer model mounts for top and rear of the transmission. The only problem i see is that teh 4th gens have a crossmember mount and the 5th and 6th have a torque mount on the front of the tranny. I have see people do swaps and get by without the torque mounts though. Maybe a little custom fabrication. The other thing is that the 4th gens have cable trannys and the 5th and 6th are hydraulic but Hasport sells a conversion kit for this. After you get it mounted you might need a custom drive shaft and you will have to change out the rear suspension and transplant the rear end from the wagon. This is just a starting point to give you an idea of what will be required. There's also all the unplanned things that pop up when modding a car . That's to be expected.

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Honestly, it doesnt get anymore HMT style than that.. lol, I love the bunge on the boost gauge.. ;D

Welcome to the site Tinker... I read lots of your posts on HT.

I totally dig the name "love-fab" :)

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I want one... you could throw a ZC and turbo that in there... I wonder how much that drivetrain could take... can we say lsd... 1, 2, or maybe even 3!!!

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That's the only thing about the wagons. the 4wd system is very hit or miss. It is said when they have problems they really have problems. And being that they where only on the a6 equipped wagons and not used on another honda/acura the parts are hard to find and costly. Reguardless and awd turbo Honda would really shut some of the wrx/evo guys up. ;D
I'd go turbo mini me or a turbo zc at about 8-10 psi gut that bad boy maybe put a hybrid gear set in the tranny(crx si set). I think what would truly be awsome would be transferring it into a CRX or to go sleper put it in a 4door. On the subject I found pics and a write up somwhere of a crx with 4wd gsr swap fom Canada a while back. that was bad ass.

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What year is that? my neighbor has one he said he would sell me for 100 bucks, i think its an 87.. it has like an EH engine in it, not a d series... so i dont really want to buy it then... that one obvously has a d series...

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haha dude that's hawt!

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Its a 90. In the 4th gen civics, the only chassis modifications needed are to drill/tap/weld mounting points for the transfer-case housing in the ass-end. the suspension points all bolt up, etc. Oh yes, the driveshaft that goes to the rear uses a "halfshaft" type of mount that mounts to a flimsy metal bracket thats spot-welded to the car from the factory. This will also need to be duplicated, which wont be a big dea.
This will be the end result of the drivetrain because lets face it, this chassis isnt going to last through the winter :) I have a clean 4dr thats just waiting for the wagon to break in half!
I have since tossed a small SAAB IC in there, but Ive kept the boost down. It hits 5 psi near redline, and thats fine for me. Still pulls harder than most cars Ive driven because you ACTUALLY HOOK UP! The IC made a HUGE difference, mainly in the smoothness of acceleration.
Oh ya, Ive been on HMT for ----...over a year now I think? I was one of the firt few to sign onto the forum when it was first made I think :) Im just not a regular poster here :(

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It wont be AWD either, Im going to dub it "TWIN DRIVE", because of the two seperate engines/drivetrains situation. I still have no idea how its going to drive, but all arrows are still in the GO! direction :) Parts collected, now I just need to save $ for engine build-up. Theres NO reason I shouldnt see 1200comibined WHP on race gas :) Just think of this...800c.whp on pump :o

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I think Cody just sold out to HT with lovefab ;) j/k I didnt notice but you are member #125 out of 3674

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Much love to "love fab"......i drooled on that website before.Those are some sexy mannifolds :-* man.

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ill buy that car for $5....

BTW LoveFab SST=sexy...and i love the fact you are making a $500 range manifold w/ AC and PS...thats kick ass to make something affordable and convienant...

your next project should be to make my car go fast...but do it all out of the kindness of your heart and not charge me a dime ;D

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thats a ghetto ass ride but thats how i like em. sweet!

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So that was not an awd chassis at first, i would like more info on it, because like i said i might buy an 87.. so if i could put the suspension in something else or something (friend has a 89 4dr civic), give me a heads up!

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Yes, it was an AWD chassis. THe car sat in a field for 3 years because the previous owner didnt want to bleed the brakes, nor replace the alternator. I did these, tossed a turbo on, and Ive got about 1500 miles on it :) I think a wheel bearing is going bad in the passenger rear, if I drive over a washer-board set of bumps at any kind of speed, the wheel locks up. I learned this the hard way with a hot cup of coffee in my lap, and a nice view of the ditch to go with it :) put it in SL(the 6th speed), and climb your way out. Ahhhhh...this is going to be nice this winter :) :cigar in mouth as I recline in my lazy boy: :P

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that AWM trans will bolt to a ZC ? now youve got my attention. anybody got a spare trans for one of these laying about. i know the 1st gen teg ZC and 86-89 accord trans internals are interchangable. i never knew they made and AWD civic. i would assume though that the 1st gen teg trans guts were used. hmmm now im thinking.

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Yeah the internals are interchangeable, but how are you gonna add the differential from the civic tranny to yours? or are you talking about bolting it to your engine?

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keep in mind, it's not awd.

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well actually only the bellhousing are different between the teg/accrod trans so in thoery it should bolt right to the 3g belhousing. unless im missing something about how the transfer dif is mounted. if you could send me a few pics id be most grateful. as for the rear dif theres alot of CRV in the junkyards these days.

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the tranny will bolt up to any d series. it uses a half shaft system. so those are the only holes that will be off, to the pass side, directly under the alternator. the length of the driveshaft will need to be changed. and mouting for the rear diff. also you would need the rear hubs from a wagon. it uses a viscous coupler (spelling), so you will also need mounts for that in the center of the drive shaft. it uses a 2 shaft system, with the front shaft spinning all of the time. etc... just like any slush box 4wd.

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Yep, two years ago I swapped a ZC into a buddies AWD wagon. That thing had me hooked, took me this long to finally find another one for a decent price(free!).
Whatever the drivetrain is, with all 4 wheels off the ground(on jack stands :P ), if you spin any of the front wheels, the rear ones spin as well. So....whats this mean? I thought it was a viscous coupling or whatever, so that when theres a difference between the front and rear wheel-speeds that only THEN the rear wheels would engage. It also goes two ways, the rears spin the fronts. Unless mine is broken, and its stuck in 4WD mode :P
I just finished my ghetto hood scoop. With some Bondo, and TLC, I think it could actually look pretty good :) I surprised myself. Pics coming soon, ALONG WITH VIDEOS! :)

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so let me get this right. the transfer dif doesn bolt to the trans. ? if thats the case SWEETTTTTT !!!!! as for it being a vicsous coupling is probably a helical side gear arragnement like a typical thrimemeber in a v8 car. as for the rear diff ahh b20 crv etc could be used id still have to put in some sort of viscous coupling of limted slip in the trans. i like this. could you please grab some pics of how this is all set up. THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!1

sincerly
Sean

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tinker weld the ------- diff up in the trani.
full time 4wd to all wheels.

;D

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When it goes in the 4dr, this will be done ;) for now though, its just fine as-is. I went and looked at another wagon for a buddy(the one who gave me this one) yesturday while I was waiting for an argo refill ;) He decided against it because it was an automatic. Oh well, maybe next time. Well, today Should be video day if I can figure out how to host my own videos :P

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take it into a mud pit at 60km/h

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only if you tell me WTF your avatar is...lol. Looks like a banana whapping Tein-man...lol

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thats one banana humping the other one

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OK, mudpit at 60 Mph :) Maybe ill do Kph, my ghetto exhaust might end up laying in the mud :-\

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I think we should get a thread about your Twin engine Del sol project going too... I'm very interested to see how that goes ;)