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Sup everyone!!! As you can see here I am new, and I hope to learn alot on this fourm. I have a 1999 honda civic dx (d16y7) that is going to be turbocharged in the future.

setup:

revspeed turbo kit w/ t3/t4 turbo
fmic w/ greddy bov
manual boost controller
vitara forged pistons
peened d16 rods
arp studs
y8 inyake manifold
dsm 450cc injectors
apexi vafc
2.5 in custom exhaust that runs to an hks hi power muffler

Setup will be installed street tuned by ci motorsports. the guy that is putting this stuff on says 300hp on 12-14psi. I was wondering if I can achieve this hp # w/ these mods. Also, is it possible I could run more that 14psi safely? thanks!!!

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post porn to prove you not a homo from h-t

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hahaha!!! i dont even have a ht account. Clubek.net is my civic site! 8)

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Get some eagles and forged pistons for your goals. Also forget the AFC and run a Crome chipped ECU. After that just up the boost and tune to 300whp.

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The car is obdII, so is there any ecu's for it? I just got this car ove the summer, so Im not really the most knowledgable person... :1

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by a jumper hanress and convert to obd-1

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xenocron Has some jumper harness for sale.

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What is revspeed ?

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ygpm

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Its kinda like an ssac kit (im not rich) but has a better manifold. Heard it holds up really well! ;D

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Im not messin w/ that. I want to run what the motor is supposed to run... :y

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wtf? :S

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You got PM (personal message)

Doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure these things out, bro.

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You want the harness. much much easier to tune.

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dude just listen and dont talk, till asked to atleast, and take the advice thats given to you most of the people here know and or have tried just about every ------ combo that can be had, now post porn noob

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obd1 will run the car the same as obd2 the sensors work the same way it's just code and the ecu's that are differant. Your engine will run just as well obd1.

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bullshit

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LOL

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Obd2 was designed for one thing and one thing only...emissions. That's why we convert down to obd1...for one you can still chip obd1, and 2...this is hmt...who gives a rats ass about emissions. ^-^

Eagle h-beams or similar are going to be your number 1 choice for rods. Shot-peened or not, stock d-series rods just can't handle 300hp.

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Stock d-series motors can handle 425whp if Jeff Evans is doing the tuning lol... http://forums.evans-tuning.com/viewtopic.php?t=3959

Seriously though convert ot obd1 and get forged rods/pistons.

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lol, where can I get one of these jumper harness?

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if i had to choose between a chink manifold and chink turbo, I'll get the chink manifold all day long because if properly installed, it could perform just right for a reasonable period of time. Same applies to WG, BOV, IC and all the plumbing. For the turbo however, it's a complete different story: a chinese turbo immitation WILL cost you less to start with, but will fail on you in no time, resulting in costly downtime, replacement or repair costs, making this choice more expensive than having choosen a dependable turbo to start with, even if it meant delaying the installation time by a few extra days/weeks of money saving to do it right. same applies to engine management, you don'T want to cut corners short on that either.
P.S.: Don't get me wrong. The above is not necessarily the thruth. It's just my 2¢.

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dude did you miss the sig at the bottom of my post im a ase master tech, guess they give the patch to every john dick and harry huh there are other reason for obd2 beyond just emissions

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you convert to obd1 because you cant chip obd2 computers, that is the only reason.

your gonna trust your whole motor to a ebay wastegate? yeah cause if that fails it cant possible do any damage... ::)

if the turbo shits on you then nothing bad is gonna happen, some chinky turbo manifold that cracks and your turbo and WG fall off however will make your car pretty hard to drive.

oh and i thought this was home made turbo not hey i bought a shitty kit on ebay turbo

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Sure, a wastegate that decides to no longer open all of a sudden can be damaging. That's for sure! But I did not ear too many story of sudden overboosting due to a chinese wastegate failure. If they are defective, they don'T work from the start. When they do work (most of the times) they can work for a very long time.
i 100% agree that an authentic brand name wastegate is certainly more reliable but as you say, it's home made turbo and we have to accept reasonable compromises where it'S possible. as far as the chinese WG's go, i would say yes, they do make sense for a budget minded setup. the chink turbos however, is a whole different story. Even if it doesn't necessarily damage the engine when it fails, it's still a major and expensive show stopper IMO!

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Yeah, I get what you are saying... when I get the kit, I was gonna sell it on ebay and get a real t3/4 anyways. ;D

Ive learned alot so far from reading your guys' posts. So Do you guys thin Its possible to make 300hp on this setup?

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The "guys" is just me. ;D
Your idea to purchase the whole kit, sell the chink turbo and replace it for a good one is an excellent one. Although I am sure the chink t3/t4 is in theory able of the power gains. only it's reliability is doubtfull.

Please, confirm the size of your intercooler core. If it's 2.5 x 5.5 x 21, this one supports only 290 HP
if it's 3x 6.4 x 18.... it supports 310 HP. (that's the flow specs for real garrett/spearco cores so the chink ones should be even less)
So please, double check your IC core size. You may need to get a bigger chinese intercooler such as a 9" or even 12" high one. No biggy, they're cheap. Just re-sell that nice turbo + Ic chink combo on ebay! :4

for the rest, you're all set, it's all 300 HP ready! chink or not!

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you MIGHT have had a chance...but you're girl doesnt flash her tits while under YOUR car turning wrenches, and if she does you havnt posted pics of it.
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blaast you sound like a retard. You didn't mention one thing about fuel management or his rods, and that will be the things he needs to worry about the most, not some shitty ebay turbo kit.

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BBKA's on point tonight. No matter where you try to hide he will find you.
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Like I honestly give 2 shits whether or not you're ASE master tech or not...most of the people that I know who have it as well are morons.
When it all boils down to it, yeah...emissions was pretty much the biggest reason for obd2. After '95 emissions laws started getting stricter. Besides, my wrx pops a check engine light if I leave the gas cap off accidently...comes up with some b.s. fuel evap leak code, or it tosses a code for pre-cat o2 sensor when you get low on gas. What do those things have to do with engine performance and how it operates? Absolutely jack-----. I run my boosted b16a off obd0, and after some tweaking just hit 38mpg today with a mix of city and highway driving. ---- emissions, ---- obd2...I'm a straight pipe, open air dump pcv polluting s.o.b. and I don't give a ----. :4

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werd

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Get some TT rods and you'll be fine. Vitaras will hold, no problem there.

Get a jumper from Xenocron.. otherwise I have one for sale (brand new) for cheap.

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finally, someone recognizes I am a retard! :P

(The poor guy says he will have the car tuned by some local shop. Why beating on him with all kinds of fancy tuning details if he decided to have this part of the build profesionaly done? Let's assume whoever this tuner is, that he can live up to his claims and knows what he is doing! )

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dude relax being butt hurt over this is not needed but to anwser ur q about the how the codes effect performance and how it runs easy like ---- gas milage will go down and so will power and it nice that you thing im a moron and have never met me, good day to you clown :S

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Tnanks for the help everyone! I have finally decided what im gonna do... When I get the turbo kit, im sellin the turbo on ebay for the price of a real t3/4 >:D. next, im sellin the peened rods, and getting something better like scat rods. Finally, i am going to buy an ecu, and off I go! With better rods alone, im sure I would hit 300hp because i can run alot more boost. I am just swapping parts to make my setup reliable because this will be my everyday driver. Hope to see (and smoke ;D) some of you on the streets! 8)

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LMAO...you think I'm gettin' butt hurt over that, that's funny. ;D Hell, any of the obd series pops a cel light and the gas mileage goes down, not just obd2. It has to do with sending it into a "safe" or "limp" mode to try and avoid engine damage. Usually ends up pulling timing and adding fuel to make sure it's on the "safer" side, therefore your power decreases and you gas mileage drops. Where as obd0 has a small limited map scale, obd1 has a larger one (I think 8x8 and 15x15 respectively, but not 100% sure), obd2 steps up to a slightly larger size for fine tuning to increase mileage, power, and reduce emissions. Only problem is obd2 is so highly integrated that under certain conditions even at wot it won't read directly off the map, meaning it acts like it's in part-throttle closed loop almost 100% of the time. There are too many variables tied in with obd2, which is why nobody wants to touch them as far as making an editor for obd2 honda code.
I'm not making fun of you or anything you've accoplished in your life (read ASE cert.)...more power to you. Knowledge is power, and it's a shame there aren't more people in the world who take the initiative to learn as much as they can.

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well said that i can respect and this is quashed from my standpoint with that i now have some respect for you i never wanted a pissin match but hay it all part of the game here @ hmt

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It happens unfortunately. People have different opinions on everything, and I respect that, but at the same time I take it with a grain of salt. Most of the stuff I go from is my own experience, not a so-and-so's-cousin-said type of thing like H-T is known for. You've earned my respect, alot of people on here would keep arguing their point until it came down to basic name calling. You'll do well here. ;)

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I would immediately write off that tuner/shop...Anyone who's willing to do that tune with an afc deserves to get sodomized by hotrex