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azndude1983 01-28-2006 07:58 PM

Accord Turbo Problem. Help!!!!!
 
Hello, i'm new here and i need help on my Accord Turbo. I just finished installed a T3 Greddy Turbo kit in my 01 Accord 2.3L. Let me break down the components for easy understanding. Got a T3 Greddy, 38wastegate external, Intercooler, pipings, Greddy Type S BOV, 450cc Fuel Injectors, FMU 12:1. Anyways, i've connected the Wastegate Vacuum line together with the BOV vacuum line by using a "T" fitting, then the last end on the fitting i connected it to the Top of my Engine where the vacuum source is. There's also a nipple on the Turbo but i covered it with a Bolt. So, I test drive my car by going 10mph first, then up and up and so on and everything seems okay. Then i decided to step hard on the Gas peddle to see how fast the turbo will spool and how much power it actually delivers to my car, but when the odometer goes up to around 55mph, there's like a noise in the engine and it lost power. I say that because the car will not go fast like a normal car would do with you step on the gas that much. I asked folks around and they said i might have the Vacuum source wrong, some told me to connect the Vacuum source to the Turbo Nipple. Well, i did that but still have the same problem. About the BOV, it doesn't MAKE any "pshhhh" sound like other people's cars do. I don't knwo what i did wrong, please help. Or is something wrong with the Turbo??? I bought it used, but he still looked and i though perform good when i spin the blades to see any noise or any dent but it looked good. Thanks for helping!!

accordepicenter 01-28-2006 08:01 PM

Re: Accord Turbo Problem. Help!!!!!
 
hold on, youre using 450cc injectors on an FMU at 10psi boost?

Dr.Boost 01-28-2006 08:17 PM

Re: Accord Turbo Problem. Help!!!!!
 

Originally Posted by accordepicenter
hold on, youre using 450cc injectors on an FMU at 10psi boost?

lol, I sure hope not. :-X It would have a very bad idle with 450cc injectors and nothing to control them.
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azndude1983 01-29-2006 05:40 AM

Re: Accord Turbo Problem. Help!!!!!
 
Yes, i'm using 450cc injectors with 12:1 FMU. Well, i'm new to turbo and i thought that idea would be good because i'm afraid my stock fuel injectors will not have enough fuel inject into the engine to feed the Amount of Air the Turbo put out, that's why i upgraded with 450cc. Why would it be hard to handle? I did researches before i install the Kit on my car and most of the Turbo Honda they all use 450cc or higher. About the answer to the question "hold on, you're using 450cc and running 10lbs of BOOST" that i do not know how much Boost i'm running cause i haven't install the Boost Gauge yet. I have the Boost Gauge, Air/Fuel Gauge, and Oil Pressure Gauge but still learning on HOW TO INSTALL it to read the correct unit. Please help

accordepicenter 01-29-2006 11:27 AM

Re: Accord Turbo Problem. Help!!!!!
 
i wouldnt run a car like this at all without a boost gauge. You need some kind of REAL managemant, like a MSD BTM and an Apexi SAFC or somthing. Running no managemant like this and driving the car with just the 450cc injectors and fmu simply will not work and will most likely result in you blowing the motor. I wouldnt even drive it until you get somthing to control your fuel and timing and do some tuning.

Dr.Boost 01-29-2006 11:48 AM

Re: Accord Turbo Problem. Help!!!!!
 
Put the stock injectors back in and use the FMU. You're dumping way too much fuel right now. :3
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accordepicenter 01-29-2006 11:52 AM

Re: Accord Turbo Problem. Help!!!!!
 
i wouldnt even reccomend that, besides he doesnt even know how much boost hes running. Nomatter what the setup, you need REAL managemant

Dr.Boost 01-29-2006 11:53 AM

Re: Accord Turbo Problem. Help!!!!!
 

Originally Posted by accordepicenter
i wouldnt even reccomend that, besides he doesnt even know how much boost hes running. Nomatter what the setup, you need REAL managemant

Well at this rate he's bound to blow it up anyways. :P What makes you think he's going to be able to tune it after he gets that? :1
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penguininatux 01-29-2006 02:41 PM

Re: Accord Turbo Problem. Help!!!!!
 
u have balls to install that setup with no boost gauge. fmu and 450's. And an incorrectly installed wastegate line. So i think u said u moved the wg line into the turbo nipple. That's right, what did u do with the bov ???? just run it to the fpr vac line or w/e u want. (end of you're fuel rail ---> throttle body :1).. throw the stock injectors back in and for god sakes buy a $10 boost gauge of ebay or something. if u have any questions try searching. There's already numerous thread's on installation questions.

HMTguy 01-29-2006 03:17 PM

Re: Accord Turbo Problem. Help!!!!!
 
Post pics when she pops

darksol2005 01-29-2006 03:31 PM

Re: Accord Turbo Problem. Help!!!!!
 

Originally Posted by jagojon3
Post pics when she pops

+1

djfob 01-29-2006 05:04 PM

Re: Accord Turbo Problem. Help!!!!!
 
nice try but it seems like you need to go back to the drawing board

azndude1983 01-29-2006 05:48 PM

Re: Accord Turbo Problem. Help!!!!!
 
:), well about the BOV, you said to connect the nipple to the FPR vacuum source, but on my BOV (Type S Greddy), there are TWO nipples. One on the Top (not the tip but on the side), and a smaller nipple at the bottom (also on the side) but lower than the bigger one. How do i know which one is vauum source to connect to the FMU and what's the other one good for???. About the Boost Gauge, i got me a 52mm Tinted Boost Gauge off Eba. On the back of it there's a plastice Tupe. I'm assuming that tupe needs to go to the Top of my Wastegate or something?? And can anyone tell me how to post the pictures on so it's easier to view? i have them in my Desktop but when i click on the Insert (to post) there's this HTML code and i have no idea where to find the Address of my picuture to put in the middle.

HMTguy 01-29-2006 05:58 PM

Re: Accord Turbo Problem. Help!!!!!
 

Originally Posted by azndude1983
:), well about the BOV, you said to connect the nipple to the FPR vacuum source, but on my BOV (Type S Greddy), there are TWO nipples. One on the Top (not the tip but on the side), and a smaller nipple at the bottom (also on the side) but lower than the bigger one. How do i know which one is vauum source to connect to the FMU and what's the other one good for???. About the Boost Gauge, i got me a 52mm Tinted Boost Gauge off Eba. On the back of it there's a plastice Tupe. I'm assuming that tupe needs to go to the Top of my Wastegate or something?? And can anyone tell me how to post the pictures on so it's easier to view? i have them in my Desktop but when i click on the Insert (to post) there's this HTML code and i have no idea where to find the Address of my picuture to put in the middle.

Wow, you need to do a lot of research before doing anything else. Basically everything you just said was wrong.

Tha-slow-hoe 01-29-2006 06:05 PM

Re: Accord Turbo Problem. Help!!!!!
 
where are u located at?... u need some help with this bud...

azndude1983 01-29-2006 08:46 PM

Re: Accord Turbo Problem. Help!!!!!
 

Originally Posted by jagojon3
Wow, you need to do a lot of research before doing anything else. Basically everything you just said was wrong.

Base on what people have told me to do. Well, if you think it's wrong. What do you think i should do. About My location, i'm in Memphis, TN if that's the location you're talking about. Well, tell me what you guys think about my Fuel system. Some people said i'm dumping tooo much fuel into my engine by using 450cc with the FMu, some people said I don't need FMU and some people said i just need to replace the Stock Injectors Back. Let me ask you guys this, if the turbo spins and no noise what soever, no oil leaking, no dent that means the turbo is working fine right??? Cause i'm afraid something may be wrong with the Turbo but not the Fuel. But just tell me w hat you guys think I should Do cause there are different ways to do it and i'm not sure which.

HMTguy 01-29-2006 09:07 PM

Re: Accord Turbo Problem. Help!!!!!
 

Originally Posted by azndude1983
Base on what people have told me to do. Well, if you think it's wrong. What do you think i should do. About My location, i'm in Memphis, TN if that's the location you're talking about. Well, tell me what you guys think about my Fuel system. Some people said i'm dumping tooo much fuel into my engine by using 450cc with the FMu, some people said I don't need FMU and some people said i just need to replace the Stock Injectors Back. Let me ask you guys this, if the turbo spins and no noise what soever, no oil leaking, no dent that means the turbo is working fine right??? Cause i'm afraid something may be wrong with the Turbo but not the Fuel. But just tell me w hat you guys think I should Do cause there are different ways to do it and i'm not sure which.

Somebody please help this guy because I just don't have the patience.

I thought asians were supposed to know how to work on hondas and toyotas?

mizter_2 01-29-2006 09:17 PM

Re: Accord Turbo Problem. Help!!!!!
 
do more reasearch man i wouldn't buy anything that i dont know how to install in the first place...

Oscar 01-29-2006 09:55 PM

Re: Accord Turbo Problem. Help!!!!!
 
wow, im sorry dude, but you're a ------- idiot!

You obviously didn't research enough. In the first place, you should be shot for using an FMU, then you should get shot again for using 450's.

read this ----:
all of it!
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...?topic=14497.0

DONT post back till you understand that ---- completely.

I have a question for you, if you bought a prefab kit, why the ---- are you on this site? Its called HOMEMADEturbo.com!!!!!!! Go to h-t or some other fag based forum.

Im ------ tired of noobs like this man!

-Jose

accordh22a 01-29-2006 11:39 PM

Re: Accord Turbo Problem. Help!!!!!
 
Here are a few pointers...im a newb so im not as sick of these stupid ass ?'s.

throw way the following items:
fmu
turbo
intercooler
injectors
bov
wastegate
turbo manifold
all piping
all gages

if your gonna go boost to it right. dont use a damn fmu...and buy a real tunning system not the "bandaid's" that someone elsed mentioned.
safc's and other piggyback systems are crap...people use them and have success but save up some money and get something like hondata or another standalone system. But FIRST THING DO A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH!!! but ya if i were you id throw away all that stuff....it will save YOU money inthe long run(2weeks in your case)

azndude1983 01-30-2006 12:40 AM

Re: Accord Turbo Problem. Help!!!!!
 
Damn...not every asian is good with cars. I'm just trying to see how it's like to turbo a car and run with it. If you're ------- tired of reading my ---- then get the ---- out. As for others, i'm greatly appreciated for the help! You don't ------- know how long i've been doing reseach before i've bought all the parts and install it myself. I'm not in any club what so ever and i'm doing this all by myself so when i'm done, i can ACTUALLY say that "wow, i really did it". I know that people said F23 and F22 aren't good to turbo, but i do that anyways just to see what it's going to be like (how much power it will put out compare with before). Anyways, piece.

Oscar 01-30-2006 01:25 AM

Re: Accord Turbo Problem. Help!!!!!
 
if you would have researched, you would have known that buying a prefab kit is stupid.

wow, I didnt know people could actually ---- up with those prefab kits.

All, if not most of the guys on here do everything themselves, and are not in clubs, because most of us think that kind of ---- is gay and ricer-like, which this site is totally against.

but I really suggest taking all of ur kit off, then researching WAY more. know ur ----. How many months has it been of u searching? If your answer is less than a month, then ur stupid, thats not a lot of searching.


-Jose

RENR 01-30-2006 01:26 AM

Re: Accord Turbo Problem. Help!!!!!
 
you guys are being real dicks. live and learn. im sure non of you guys were turbo experts when you did your first kit. at least he knew he need to add fuel.


ok you fucked up. but now to fix your problems. first DONT DRIVE YOUR CAR!!!

keep the fmu for now. put the stock injectors back. Your going to need some "check valves} { do a google search}

you can hook up the wastegate and bov to the same t fitting no biggy but hook them up to the intake manifold not the turbo.

then you should be ok if you keep boost under 8psi.

azndude1983 01-30-2006 01:37 AM

Re: Accord Turbo Problem. Help!!!!!
 
Thanks, I'll replace the injectors back to stock tomorrow and see. About the research thing. Man i bought Turbo Info off of Ebay from some Turbo SEller, I went on internet to do reserches, i also saw this dude from honda-acur.net (AzhZero is username) and he had the same Engine like mine and it worked out for him. he said that he's using 450cc injectors also that's why i bought it. I've been researching for about 3-4 months. The kit that is on my Accord right now is piece together. I didn't buy a Package deal. I'm thinking that i may dump too much fuel into my engine also. The thing is that the guy who has same engine like mine and installed a turbo kit on his car. He was using T3/T4 Garret and i'm using T3 Garret. Maybe his engine is okay with 450cc injectors cause his turbo is bigger. Sorry for posting too much on here, I haven't messed with my car for the past 3 days cause i want to get more info first before i mess with it. But JDM, stop being a dick man.

RENR 01-30-2006 01:39 AM

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you cant just install 450cc and expect them to work. you need a chipped ecu for that and their not cheap. just swap the injectors and get some check valves. youll be ok.

Oscar 01-30-2006 01:47 AM

Re: Accord Turbo Problem. Help!!!!!
 
Im not being a dick, Im being soft compared to what others would have done. Im just tired of people saying they researched, but still ---- up. I mean, if you woulda searched this site alone, you would have known what the problem was and how to fix it.

and why would u buy turbo info from ebay? Go buy maximum boost or How to tune and Modify engine management systems by Jeff Hartman. thats a good book to learn from.

im really sorry if im coming off as a dick, I forget that the internet doesnt show emotions. im not being a dick, im just kinda pissed. Im usually not like this, to tell u the truth, this is the first time I ever say something like this.

anyways, just do what renr tells u, he knows his ---- too.

-Jose

jinxy 01-30-2006 01:51 AM

Re: Accord Turbo Problem. Help!!!!!
 
you need to read allot of ----, go back to stock injectors. use the fmu. hook the bov t'ed off of a vac source from the intake manifold. wastegate can go on the intake mani also. do you have oil lines hooked up to your turbo? retard the timing from the distributer. hook the boost gauge up to a vac source off of the intake manifold. and read read read read read, all over this website.

azndude1983 01-30-2006 04:22 AM

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look at the pics on these site and tell me what you think about my setup. Hope pictures will show more detail.
http://pc.aacdn.us/?size=full&id=2285532
http://pb.aacdn.us/?size=full&id=2285531
http://p2.aacdn.us/?size=full&id=2285554
http://p3.aacdn.us/?size=full&id=2285555
copy and past to the address bar to view. Won't work by cliking on it.

sohcpwr 01-30-2006 08:21 AM

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ill buy your 450's from you. $50 shipped

accordh22a 01-30-2006 08:33 AM

Re: Accord Turbo Problem. Help!!!!!
 

Originally Posted by sohcpwr
ill buy your 450's from you. $50 shipped

what the hell kinda offer is that??? :3 fifty bucks ::)??? the shipping alone will be ten bucks. :S

I have been researching turbos for about a year now. I still have things to learn. I will be doing my set up this summer. you cant just research for even a month and know exactly how to build your own kit. Ya i know you want the power now but you will be glad you waited cause you wont mess it up. by not knowing what youre doing you are more likely to blow the motor and its gonna cost you even more money.

MyVtec8yourV8 01-30-2006 08:41 AM

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Most of you guys are being dicks. Not that some of it is warrented. The guy needs help we all know that. We ALL needed help at some point in time. No one woke up one day and proclaimed they are the TURBO GURU. If you choose to want to help this guy out help him out but dam guys you dont have to shoot the guy then stomp his kidneys in. a simple research first NOOB would do.
Thats my .02

jinxy 01-30-2006 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by accordh22a
what the hell kinda offer is that??? :3 fifty bucks ::)??? the shipping alone will be ten bucks. :S

thats how much they go for, dick.

Oscar 01-30-2006 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by accordh22a
what the hell kinda offer is that??? :3 fifty bucks ::)??? the shipping alone will be ten bucks. :S

I have been researching turbos for about a year now. I still have things to learn. I will be doing my set up this summer. you cant just research for even a month and know exactly how to build your own kit. Ya i know you want the power now but you will be glad you waited cause you wont mess it up. by not knowing what youre doing you are more likely to blow the motor and its gonna cost you even more money.

50 shipped is actually a pretty good price. Go look around the site, everyone is selling/buying them for around 40, you really cant get any more than 50 bux, unless they were cleaned (and not just from the outside, they goat be cleaned from the inside, i forget what thats called, but usually costs alot.)

-Jose

jinxy 01-30-2006 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jdmcord
50 shipped is actually a pretty good price. Go look around the site, everyone is selling/buying them for around 40, you really cant get any more than 50 bux, unless they were cleaned (and not just from the outside, they goat be cleaned from the inside, i forget what thats called, but usually costs alot.)

-Jose

its called injector cleaning and it cost about 90 bucks and will add about 40 dollars value to the injectors

Oscar 01-30-2006 01:06 PM

Re: Accord Turbo Problem. Help!!!!!
 
yea, thats what its called, lol. thanks

-Jose

Hob684 01-30-2006 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rawr
its called injector cleaning and it cost about 90 bucks and will add about 40 dollars value to the injectors

$60 including shipping on a set of 4.

www.witchhunter.com

accordh22a 01-30-2006 01:49 PM

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well i do appolagize for being such a "dick", but i sure as hell wouldn't sell my 360 dollar rc injectors to you for 50 bucks shipped....used or not. I don't know what kind he has but im gonna bet the cost him some good money. and with them only being on the car for a little while i dont really see why you would need to clean them. do you clean your injectors every oil change??? im gonna bet not. besides hes going to need them anyway.

If i were you id keep most of the parts you have and do some research then buy somehting to tune the injectors with.

jinxy 01-30-2006 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by accordh22a
well i do appolagize for being such a "dick", but i sure as hell wouldn't sell my 360 dollar rc injectors to you for 50 bucks shipped....used or not. I don't know what kind he has but im gonna bet the cost him some good money. and with them only being on the car for a little while i dont really see why you would need to clean them. do you clean your injectors every oil change??? im gonna bet not. besides hes going to need them anyway.

If i were you id keep most of the parts you have and do some research then buy somehting to tune the injectors with.

they're probably DSM injectors and they come off of manual turbo eclipses and tallons and lazers oh my. they cost like 30 bucks from the junkyard. and thats where you get them. You bought new rc's, these are a junkyard part. good day sir.

azndude1983 01-30-2006 03:11 PM

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are you talking about my Injectors?? 50 bucks shipped? I don't know what other people say but i bought these for 75 plus 20 for harness plug and 9.80 for shipping. Total came out to be 104.80. I'm just telling the price. Nope i'm not selling them. Sorry

HMTguy 01-30-2006 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by azndude1983
are you talking about my Injectors?? 50 bucks shipped? I don't know what other people say but i bought these for 75 plus 20 for harness plug and 9.80 for shipping. Total came out to be 104.80. I'm just telling the price. Nope i'm not selling them. Sorry

FYI, the most those injectors ever go for on HMT is $60 shipped, and that's high. I got mine for $35 shipped.


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