450cc dsm injectors
 

I have these Dms injectors and I tryied to install them and for some reason they don't seem to fit! Help?

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fucken idiots and injectors today

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Sorry!!!!!!!!!!

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cut off that clip on the outside dumbass

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it's the inside ;)

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what year/car you have?

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hmm good question......I just assumed obd1 for some reason :P

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Yeah OBD1 Acura integra LS. I wanna find a way to run the stock clips as well.

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.....and thats why they said to cut them

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i dont know why when someone asks for help some people have to be assholes

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Yeah I know what you mean man.

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Where/how do they not fit? If they dont fit in the intake, bore out the big rubber things. I find a dremel sanding drum does the job perfectly.

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It's because this question has been answered many many times... plus the thread creator didn't specify how they don't fit and what car they are going into...

You have to modify both the seal and the clip area to make them fit...

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that all that had to be said no one has to be a dickhead i dont care how many times it was asked

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https://www.homemadeturbo.com/tech_p...ors/index.html

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That's great thanks man! I wanna ask one more question. I installed the injectors and everything totall setup is in. I am running a t3/t4, Tial 35mm BOV,Tial 35mm wastegate(screw on top is missing)(they say that normal), And an FMU and Running open headers. When I ran the car on the stock injectors it would not rev good at all it would sputter. When I installed the DSM 450cc injectors the car was going crazy at idel and if I gassed the car it would just die. Now honestly I did not read up much on the injectors but I would like to know if with out the resistors will that cause it to do that? Also I did not install a missing like. Without that or check valves will It just throw a CEL or will it cause the car to drive like ----? Thanks guys I hope I was extremly clear this time. Running stock LS

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1) you cannot run "open headers" with a t3/t4.

2) You can not run 450cc injectors with an FMU

3) OMG, ur not running any resistors either? Honestly, do you think people install the resistors for the fun of it, or maybe they're trying to keep their injectors/ECU from getting fried

4) You're not gonna need check valves, cuz you're gonna get some form of fuel management, cuz your car wont run without it.

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lol, ok ok you are gonna get so flamed for this, I think you should go find yourself a mechanic or start reading cause you have by far have no idea what you are doing. Sounds like you need to look into some better fuel management then an FMU and 450's w/o reisitors, try uberdata. How do you have headers on a turbo car??? that really has me confussed! What CEL are you getting, code 23 "I'm a dumbass"

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Ok OK Im running open downpipe! Anyways I did not have a chance to go to radio shack and buy the resisters. I don't have cash till about another week or so, so till them I will have to run with what I have. Can someone help me!!!!!!!!!! hahah Flame away Im learning. Please help.

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Your car is pretty much fucked with you as the mechanic. You obviously have no clue what you are doing. Please stop and don't drive your car until you learn what the ---- you are doing!

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Honestly you should have waited to put the kit on untill you had everything, i don't think you will be able to run the 450's w/o resitors.

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You can buy 4 resistors for about $4. If you dont have $4, then you shouldn't own a turbo car.

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I got money for that just don't have money for uber,hondata. Come on this is the first time I have done this bare with me.

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Uberdata is free, the chipping is what you pay for, you need the programmer, chips and to resolder your ECU, or let someone do it for you. You might kill the car completely if don't know what you are doing. And do not touch the key to your car until you have everything and know everything, or have a smart mechanic do everything for you.

Damn it I am only at 0.0bar, I need a boost controller ;D.

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W.T.F. you want help? We told you to NOT run your car without resistors yet you're going to do it anyways. Your car WILL NOT RUN until you get some fuel management. WILL - NOT - RUN.


If you've got your stock injectors, put those back in and run the FMU. GET A HIGH PRESSURE FUEL PUMP IF YOU DO THIS.

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I am going to get the resistors in the morning and slap them on. I just wanna know if I can drive the car with an fmu and the 450cc injectors (with resistors) for about a week? Will I get sputter and ---- like that or not? Im confused and I need help. I thought that what this furom was based on! And with my stock injectors it sputters as well.

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wanting help is one thing thats fine but you need to get the ------- wax out of your ears, and/or learn how to read.

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http://www.beesandgoats.com/boostfaq...tml#Management

Read that, it should help you sort out some of the issues, pay special attension to the fuel and engine managent part...Matt

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Ok Im about to order this OBD1 Kit (Uberdata / Crome) from http://www.-------------/products.php?page=chippingkits What else do I need to make this happen? Thanks

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Visit the Engine Management forum, read, read, read. Then read some more. When you're about to post a question, search for the answer. If you cant find the answer to your question that way, post and ask your question.

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Xenocron knows his ---- he should be able to help you with engine management and get you on the right track

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dont run the 450s with the fmu. run the stock injectors and stay around 5 psi. Make sure to get some check valves also. if you dont have money for resistors, then you dont have money for a better fuel pump.
time to save up.

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Spending $$$ on your setup. I have to give you credit for jumping in with two feet, doing it yourself. I have a feeling you will learn alot about how cars work, but it will be an expensive lesson. >:D

Dude, the 450cc injector flow twice as much gas as the stocks...it is running way too rich. 450s NO work with FMU.

You're car was running like ---- with the stock injectors. You should figure out why, and fix it, before you go modifying other stuff. I imagine the car was running well before you installed the turbo, yes? What else did you do, besides the turbo install? Adjusted timing? Timing belt? Head off? Maybe you have a vacuum leak?

Put the stock injectors back in. Leave the turbo hooked up, but not the charge pipe, so it's running N/A, run your old air intake, and get it idling and running properly before you boost it and blow ---- up.

When you get it running properly, drive down to petco and pick up 3 of these:
http://www.petco.com/product_info.as...cessories&ct3=
and some T's. Hook those up btwn the intake mani and the map sensor. No you can boost while you get the $ for resistors, and a spare ECU to send to xenocron.

FMU-- stock injectors--- check valves b4 MAP sensor

Uberdata-- 450 injectors-- injector resistors.

You really read up some more:
http://www.pgmfi.org/twiki/bin/view/...nToECUChipping
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...?topic=14497.0
http://uberdata.pgmfi.org/faq/index.html

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ha ha, funny

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No doubt... this thread is cracking me up!

I honestly hope you are able to get your car running properly with good fuel management before too long...

It cracks me up because I studied, read, and researched for about a year before attempting my first turbo installation... but when I did it, it worked perfectly... But, I guess that's just my personallity, I like to know exactly what I am doing before I start taking stuff apart... LoL..

Props to this guy for getting in there and tackling a big job without much experience or knowledge... I guess that's what HMT is all about!

Post some pics when you get her running! :)

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I ran all 3 check valves like pictured in most web sites and still getting sputter and I can only rev upto 3500. Stock injectors with the FMU and that's it.

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I doubt that's the check valves fault. remove the check valves (take as many variables out of the equasion as possible, so to speak), and get the car to run well off-boost. Then, reinstall the checkvalves and work from there.

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I did everything and at the last min I saw the oil pressure sensor kinda unpluged So I checked it and it was barly pluged. Plugged it in and it started woking. I did'nt think it would make it sputter. Anyways I drove the car around for like 3 mins or so it's boosting after about 4k+ or so. I hooked up the boost gauge and noticed that it's like at 20-30 in vac and will only go up about 0 when you floor the gas in neutral. I have'nt tried it while driving because the hose is to short to bring it up to eye level. The wastegate I noticed it did not have the screw on the to(vac)p. I have seen pics of setup's with the same wastegate and no screw but others with it. I just wanna know how to know if it's working. Thanks Tial 35mm wastegate is what Im using.

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the top of the WG is fine. I dont see how hooking up an oil pressure switch would help your problem, but whatever works I guess. I forgot what turbo you had, but if its like a t3 size or bigger, you wont be making any boost standing still without a lot of effort.

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So basicaly I should get a longer hose and see what it is while im driving? Lets say my boost is more then 5psi how would I regulate it? I do not have a boost controller.