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mtber 02-28-2007 12:09 PM

Re: 406whp/281wht Stock Sleeve Turbo D16z6 Video/Dyno Sheet
 
Phearable.net send's customer's the same bins from vehicles that have actually been tuned.
So.... Lets look at some dyno sheets to see how bad the fuel curves look:


http://www.phearable.net/album/album...willturbls.gif
http://www.phearable.net/album/album...khaleelb17.gif
http://www.phearable.net/album/album...svtectdyno.jpg

Look close for the blue lines:
http://www.phearable.net/album/album...rturbo9lbs.png
http://www.phearable.net/album/album...ecturbo308.gif

Wow, those fuel curves sure look flat don't they ?

If I didn't know what I was doing I wouldn't tune cars for a living.
I wouldn't be booked several weeks in advanced at a time, I wouldn't have people driving from southflorida & out of state to have their cars tuned.

This forum is simply filled with a bunch of haters that do not support phearable.net & will go out on a limb to try and make us look bad by jumping on a bashing bandwagon.

ryan89crx 02-28-2007 12:11 PM

Re: 406whp/281wht Stock Sleeve Turbo D16z6 Video/Dyno Sheet
 

Originally Posted by mtber
The vehicle was street tuned & the customer put the car on a dynodynamics dyno which reads low.
Anything else you want to try and talk ---- about ?

generally about 12% lower, so 280 x .88 = 246whp @ 17psi...

weird, i made 250whp on a 100% stock GSR with the same turbo @ 7psi, a log manifold on a pig rich tune

mtber 02-28-2007 12:29 PM

Re: 406whp/281wht Stock Sleeve Turbo D16z6 Video/Dyno Sheet
 

Originally Posted by ryan89crx
generally about 12% lower, so 280 x .88 = 246whp @ 17psi...

weird, i made 250whp on a 100% stock GSR with the same turbo @ 7psi, a log manifold on a pig rich tune

Hey dumbass, you did your math backwards... The dyno reads low, not high.

ryan89crx 02-28-2007 12:33 PM

Re: 406whp/281wht Stock Sleeve Turbo D16z6 Video/Dyno Sheet
 

Originally Posted by mtber
Hey dumbass, you did your math backwards... The dyno reads low, not high.

killer ------- attidute doucherocket :S . even so, 313hp isnt anything amazing either

business ethics at its best. calling names on online forums. get a rope and hang yourself you cocksmuggler

oh, i hear your business does great work too. here is a customer review from another site

i would not recommend phearable.net. i ordered a p28 from them and got some other ecu converted to a vtec and auto-to manual. the ecu also causes the car to hicup and i dont know why. im trying to get a replacement but i dont think hes going to do anything. so i give thumbs down for phearble.
shove it up your ass jerkoff

mtber 02-28-2007 12:35 PM

Re: 406whp/281wht Stock Sleeve Turbo D16z6 Video/Dyno Sheet
 

Originally Posted by ryan89crx
killer ------- attidute doucherocket :S . even so, 313hp isnt anything amazing either

business ethics at its best. calling names on online forums. get a rope and hang yourself you cocksmuggler

oh, i hear your business does great work too. here is a customer review from another site


i would not recommend phearable.net. i ordered a p28 from them and got some other ecu converted to a vtec and auto-to manual. the ecu also causes the car to hicup and i dont know why. im trying to get a replacement but i dont think hes going to do anything. so i give thumbs down for phearble.
shove it up your ass jerkoff


Originally Posted by IowaTCoupe
134. 1.8L b18c1, built motor, stock sleeves, skunk2 intake manifold, 2.5 bar map sensor, 60/.63 t3/t04e turbo, inlinepro turbo manifold, 550cc injectors. Street tuned on crome pro at 17 psi on pump. Made 280 whp 229 wht.

Something VERY wrong here.... on 17 psi... w/ a b18c1 vtec engine.... your tune only made 280whp????
AND... how do u know how much power if it was STREET tuned?!?!

My d16z6 made over 300hp w/ the same boost levels!!!! :S

My mistake, 373 whp & 264 wht uncorrected on a dyno dynamics were his numbers. Should I have him fax over the dynosheet for you ?

Thank you for pointing out the mistake on the website.

Concerning the ecu the customer had an issue with, all the customer needed to do was contact us & we would replace the ecu.

All you are going to continue to do is try and pull up the negatives you can find. Go ahead, I am sure there are some people that had a problem that we probably resolved for them. The ratio of problems to customer's that had no issues at all is around ten problems to around seven hundred plus customers.


0b00st0 02-28-2007 12:42 PM

Re: 406whp/281wht Stock Sleeve Turbo D16z6 Video/Dyno Sheet
 


Damn. I need to raise my prices.


Phearable sells a basic no shits and giggles chip kit for $35. I chip ecu's locally for just $10 more.





Hitchhikkr 02-28-2007 12:50 PM

Re: 406whp/281wht Stock Sleeve Turbo D16z6 Video/Dyno Sheet
 

Originally Posted by mtber
My mistake, 373 whp & 264 wht uncorrected on a dyno dynamics were his numbers. Should I have him fax over the dynosheet for you ?

Thank you for pointing out the mistake on the website.

Concerning the ecu the customer had an issue with, all the customer needed to do was contact us & we would replace the ecu.


You know, Ive never heard of pherable.net or whatever, but after reading your immature replies, I cant see how anyone would do business with you. If you really dont give a ---- about HMT, then why the hell did you post your dyno sheets here in the first place and why do you continue to try and defend yourself on a forum full of ppl who obivously hate you???


















BTW, your last reply was in your quote. :1

SDRAWKCAB 02-28-2007 12:54 PM

Re: 406whp/281wht Stock Sleeve Turbo D16z6 Video/Dyno Sheet
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Insinuating that I am a liar will not get you far, anyone who has spent more than a few hours in my company can attest that I do not lie. That's a few people more than 130. ::)

It's not like I do this for money, and I don't ----- my accomplishments across the internet to aggrandize my ego. I'm some sort of freak nutjob who just genuinely likes cars - imagine that! What ulterior motive do I have to lie in this matter? Absolutely none. What reason do I have for criticising you publicly? Uh, I've stated them, but to make it perfectly clear since you are so perfectly dense: this is one of the handful of places I consider home, and you are not to prey upon it's denizens with your ching chong meow wares; go sell your less than impressive services to the Honda-Bling Farced Induction Forum kiddies, 97% of whom do not deserve to be breathing my air.

The sort of people you sell basemaps to generally lack knowledge, equipment, talent to deduce you're a crap artist. The ones with the ability to learn see what they've gotten from dealing with you, see how they can do a much better job themselves, and have no further use for you - they've gladly resolved their own issues.

That ---- was the most poetic piece of ligature i have here on here.

HondaTuner 02-28-2007 12:56 PM

Re: 406whp/281wht Stock Sleeve Turbo D16z6 Video/Dyno Sheet
 
Kinda funny how xeno stepped out of the ring and said we shouldn't bash although he himself was bashed...

ryan89crx 02-28-2007 12:57 PM

Re: 406whp/281wht Stock Sleeve Turbo D16z6 Video/Dyno Sheet
 

Originally Posted by SinisterCRX
Kinda funny how xeno stepped out of the ring and said we shouldn't bash although he himself was bashed...

quality business ethics. there are still a few business' that have some...

mtber 02-28-2007 01:28 PM

Re: 406whp/281wht Stock Sleeve Turbo D16z6 Video/Dyno Sheet
 

Originally Posted by Hitchhikkr

You know, Ive never heard of pherable.net or whatever, but after reading your immature replies, I cant see how anyone would do business with you. If you really dont give a ---- about HMT, then why the hell did you post your dyno sheets here in the first place and why do you continue to try and defend yourself on a forum full of ppl who obivously hate you???


Did I ever state that I didn't care about HMT ?
Did you not read the whole thread before making your reply ?

Originally Posted by mtber
The owner of the car asked me to post the video on HMT as he is not computer savy, heck I don't even know if he is a member.

Infact I was a vendor/sponsor for about 3-6 months last year until "the staff" decided xenocron would be the only sponsor (monopoly if you ask me).
Ever since then the whole forum has been against my company for no obvious reason.

If you ask me, I think "the staff" is in xenocron's corner along with the majority of the members of HMT.
There is nothing wrong with this, however the way the HMT community has presented it's self has made me glad that my company is not affiliated with the forum.

Continue on with your rants/bashing/accusations etc.

This is the last post I will make on HMT as I have figured out that I am wasting my time trying to reason with biased people.

ryan89crx 02-28-2007 01:35 PM

Re: 406whp/281wht Stock Sleeve Turbo D16z6 Video/Dyno Sheet
 

Originally Posted by mtber
however the way the HMT community has presented it's self has made me glad that my company is not affiliated with the forum.

and the way you presented yourself has convinced me to try and persuade anyone that asks about chipping to NOT buy from you. there is something to be said for acting in a professional manner, and you my friend, do not act professional ::)

Hitchhikkr 02-28-2007 01:55 PM

Re: 406whp/281wht Stock Sleeve Turbo D16z6 Video/Dyno Sheet
 

Originally Posted by mtber

Did I ever state that I didn't care about HMT ?

You care. If you didnt you wouldnt be "WASTING YOUR TIME" sitting here arguing. :1

I did read the whole thread. You are a moron.


Originally Posted by mtber

This is the last post I will make on HMT as I have figured out that I am wasting my time trying to reason with biased people.

Good luck with your business. Hope your sucess reflects your attitude.

Guy-Fast 02-28-2007 04:42 PM

Re: 406whp/281wht Stock Sleeve Turbo D16z6 Video/Dyno Sheet
 
have fun on h-t :1

f***myzc 02-28-2007 04:48 PM

Re: 406whp/281wht Stock Sleeve Turbo D16z6 Video/Dyno Sheet
 
Your basemaps aren't crap? SAY WHAT 8)
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...?topic=75992.0
Spoke to soon bitch! :P

ososlohatch 02-28-2007 04:56 PM

Re: 406whp/281wht Stock Sleeve Turbo D16z6 Video/Dyno Sheet
 

Originally Posted by mtber

Did I ever state that I didn't care about HMT ?
Did you not read the whole thread before making your reply ?
Infact I was a vendor/sponsor for about 3-6 months last year until "the staff" decided xenocron would be the only sponsor (monopoly if you ask me).
Ever since then the whole forum has been against my company for no obvious reason.

If you ask me, I think "the staff" is in xenocron's corner along with the majority of the members of HMT.
There is nothing wrong with this, however the way the HMT community has presented it's self has made me glad that my company is not affiliated with the forum.

Continue on with your rants/bashing/accusations etc.

This is the last post I will make on HMT as I have figured out that I am wasting my time trying to reason with biased people.

of course were in xenocron's corner, why the ---- would we pay double the price for half the service you faggot mother fucker.

if you dont want to be affiliated with this site then get the ---- out bitch titts, your numbers/ tunning, are nothing impressive, you act like were going to drop to our knees and praise you cause you think all we know is junkyard setups, and for some its true, but that doesnt mean people around here are going to show you respect! save your self more humiliation stuff your nuts between your legs and crip walk back to h-t :-*

mike94se 02-28-2007 05:02 PM

Re: 406whp/281wht Stock Sleeve Turbo D16z6 Video/Dyno Sheet
 
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4893/logohu9.gif

(Nothing agaist you from me :P )

How much to run that for the sponsOr section?

reactone 02-28-2007 05:17 PM

Re: 406whp/281wht Stock Sleeve Turbo D16z6 Video/Dyno Sheet
 
I admire JD's use of diction and syntax. :D
Xenocron or bust byotch!!

IowaTCoupe 02-28-2007 07:17 PM

Re: 406whp/281wht Stock Sleeve Turbo D16z6 Video/Dyno Sheet
 

Originally Posted by mtber


My mistake, 373 whp & 264 wht uncorrected on a dyno dynamics were his numbers. Should I have him fax over the dynosheet for you ?

Thank you for pointing out the mistake on the website.

Concerning the ecu the customer had an issue with, all the customer needed to do was contact us & we would replace the ecu.

All you are going to continue to do is try and pull up the negatives you can find. Go ahead, I am sure there are some people that had a problem that we probably resolved for them. The ratio of problems to customer's that had no issues at all is around ten problems to around seven hundred plus customers.






Dyno's reading low or high... THEY DO NOT READ OFF BY 30% !!!!!!

373hp to 280hp...

No dyno reads that low!!!!!

cberman 02-28-2007 08:51 PM

Re: 406whp/281wht Stock Sleeve Turbo D16z6 Video/Dyno Sheet
 
This is HomeMadeturbo. we appreciate people that support the cause of cheap turbo setups. xenocron does that by offering affordable tuning rates, helps support the pgmfi community, and offers an excellent product with great service. You on the other hand offer prices to rip off the average consumer, don't really contribute to the pursuit of improving the pgmfi community, and offer a decent product but with your fair share of complaints. once you could offer wut xenocron offers, im sure the staff would have been more than happy to keep you as a sponsor. we are like a family here and we dont want someone dirtying up our website

quadnie 02-28-2007 09:18 PM

Re: 406whp/281wht Stock Sleeve Turbo D16z6 Video/Dyno Sheet
 
sweet. Look at the landslide that I started. Nice to see that JD was hard hitting in this thread. Let me share some more things I've said about vega the past:


Phearble.net is not one of the pioneers that has help build a foundation for this technology. People like Chris (xenocron), Jason Parker, Blake, Katman, Joseph Davis, and others are the ones who made it happen.

Phearable.net is only there to make a buck. I've never heard of his name (and I've had my nose in this game for some years). He has just popped out of nowhere to take all the money from the fools that worship H-T. Does this mystery person browse our forums and contribute? Does he offer his aol/aim s/n open to the public for questions? Does he even sponsor g2ic?

The answer is NO. On reversal, Xenocron does all of the above and has never been shy about responding to any questions I've asked him via email.

So I'm entitled to bash Phearable.net all day long. If he wants to man up and prove himself like Xenocron has then I will retract my statements. Otherwise he is only out there to profit off of others work. I seriously doubt he has done a single thing to contribute to the movement other than find a nitch and make a buck.

I hope people reading this can see my point and it will help sway them to do business with the right people (xenocron). Yes I have a few things to sell, no I'm not trying to compete with Xenocron at all. I will tell anyone who is buying ecu related ---- off me that Chris is the man and has far more experience than I do.
I have many more cases where I have bashed your name, cock knocker. The funny thing is, these were just in responses to poor fools who have actually used you and didn't know any better. I'm from florida, I know plenty of DIY tuners. I would never recommend anybody to you.

Moving along to your website. I love it how you give links to pgmfi.org but aren't a sponsor there, I doubt you have ever contributed a thing to the community. Next your basic tech writeup looks like it was completely skimmed from pgmfi.

Why the hell are you charging $30 for a basemap. Why do you horde the basemaps? It's not like you are doing something top secret and have to keep it confidential when anybody can rom dump your so secret basemaps. Why would anybody want to waste $30 on your burn when they can buy a burner for like $10 more. Must be nice to do business with the fools.

Guy-Fast 02-28-2007 09:25 PM

Re: 406whp/281wht Stock Sleeve Turbo D16z6 Video/Dyno Sheet
 
Adrian K also added tons of chipping info back in the day and learned alot from him back in the dark ages


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