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playboyace35 04-22-2004 08:37 PM

3lbs no matter what i do...what can be wrong
 
i have a manuel boost controller, i turned the thing all the way to the left, it is still at 3lbs, i turn it all the way to the right, it is still on 3lbs.....can the safc have anything to do with it? Before i was able to control it, but now i can't. What are all the possiblities that can be wrong?

willahlborn 04-22-2004 08:57 PM

Re:3lbs no matter what i do...what can be wrong
 
ummmm leaks

d16forlife 04-22-2004 09:00 PM

Re:3lbs no matter what i do...what can be wrong
 
My compressor housing was leaking.I siliconed the bitch and now its gangsta.

If its a t3 check that there is a gasket between the compressor and housing.

playboyace35 04-22-2004 09:45 PM

Re:3lbs no matter what i do...what can be wrong
 
so it oculdn't be on my deltagate wastegaste right?

turbohf 04-23-2004 12:00 AM

Re:3lbs no matter what i do...what can be wrong
 
i have an idea....follow my directions carefully...
1) take off MBC
2) take off whatever filter you have
3) go try again....
[your taking off the MBC so you dont hit too much boost]


i took mine off tonight...started to pull ------ hard, i look over at the boost gauge as it hits 15psi :o and let off...

Carnesd 04-23-2004 01:54 AM

Re:3lbs no matter what i do...what can be wrong
 
what kind of filter did you have on it?

RENR 04-23-2004 04:30 AM

Re:3lbs no matter what i do...what can be wrong
 

Originally Posted by Will
ummmm leaks

sounds like leaks to me. make sure all your clamps are on tight.

playboyace35 04-23-2004 04:23 PM

Re:3lbs no matter what i do...what can be wrong
 
no leaks....at all....

d16tuner 04-23-2004 04:33 PM

Re:3lbs no matter what i do...what can be wrong
 
I was having a similar problem today until I crushed my dsm bov. Now it boosts fine. If your charge pipes are good, it sounds like you've got a bov or wg leak.

playboyace35 04-23-2004 05:07 PM

Re:3lbs no matter what i do...what can be wrong
 
i took out my mbc and connect the turbo straight to the wg, it boosted like 1 lbs...i took out all the vaccum lines where the turbo and the wg is not connected, it boosted like 0 or 1 lb i forgot but yea.....not seems to be loose....could it be the turbo itself?

d16tuner 04-23-2004 05:35 PM

Re:3lbs no matter what i do...what can be wrong
 
I didn't see what turbo you are running, but is it boosting quickly to 1psi and then sitting there until redline, or is it only reaching 1psi at or near redline? It is leaking somewhere. If the turbo spins freely and doesn't have any play it should be ok. Try blocking off the wastegate if it is external. Use a steel plate bolted to it, pref with a gasket, and see if it still won't boost. If it still doesn't, you know the wg isn't the problem. Look at your bov and chargepipes. If it is an internal gate, maybe disconnecting the vacuum will allow you to test it? I'm not sure about that.

playboyace35 04-23-2004 05:42 PM

Re:3lbs no matter what i do...what can be wrong
 
when it goes about 3000 rpm then it is at 1lb and stay there, when the vaccum is directly connected from the turbo to the wg, ....i also tried unpluggin all the vaccum hoses, same thing it is still at 1lb......i put all the vaccum hoses back ...then nit goes back up to 3 lbs......beside the leaking theory, could it be my turbo?

nummbr7 04-23-2004 06:46 PM

Re:3lbs no matter what i do...what can be wrong
 
are you driving it down the road or reving it in your driveway? cause if theres no load on the engine you wont boost much

playboyace35 04-23-2004 06:59 PM

Re:3lbs no matter what i do...what can be wrong
 
driving

Sideout 04-24-2004 12:00 AM

Re:3lbs no matter what i do...what can be wrong
 
i say you have no or little oil going into your turbo

turbohf 04-24-2004 02:42 AM

Re:3lbs no matter what i do...what can be wrong
 
you try taking off the filter?

tranceminister 04-24-2004 08:06 AM

Re:3lbs no matter what i do...what can be wrong
 
Is this an internal wastegate? Though with the boost controler this shouldn't be an issue, but might be something to look at... Check out the wastegate actuator braket and arm and make sure it is not bent. The actuator could be leaking also. I had one that went bad on me once.

crxfreak88 04-24-2004 11:04 AM

Re:3lbs no matter what i do...what can be wrong
 
I dont mean to steal the thread but im having the same problem as well. Ive checked everything. Hey tranceminister didi the actuator swap work out. Cause all i hold is three as well then from 4k it start fluctuating like a springboard. Sorry for asking another question and not answering one. :D

tranceminister 04-24-2004 11:09 AM

Re:3lbs no matter what i do...what can be wrong
 
Well when I found out mine was bad I swapped it for an external gate... so in that case yeah it did work. But, you can find internal actuators at a decent price on ebay or go junkyard hunting. I'd say it's worth a shot.

crxfreak88 04-24-2004 11:12 AM

Re:3lbs no matter what i do...what can be wrong
 
well do thanks for the input.

playboyace35 04-24-2004 01:50 PM

Re:3lbs no matter what i do...what can be wrong
 
i have a external wg, i checked it, i took out the filter and drove, it is still the same.

Sideout 04-24-2004 02:32 PM

Re:3lbs no matter what i do...what can be wrong
 
oil problem, i'm tell you mang. if you can only hit 3psi your turbo is fuct

crxfreak88 04-24-2004 04:34 PM

Re:3lbs no matter what i do...what can be wrong
 
Trance you are the funking man!!! ;D I did it and the boost shot up to 15. Thanks for the help. :D :D :D

playboyace35 04-24-2004 05:50 PM

Re:3lbs no matter what i do...what can be wrong
 
okay, i fixed the problem, it was leakin air because one of the rubber connectors for the chargepipe was crack open.....but now i have another problem, when i full throttle my car bogs out like it doesn't has enough fuel..then the check engine light come on...it says the tps sensor, o2 sensor, and the map sensor. the werid thing about it, when those error codes appear, it always appear together. I never had the check engine light on wiht just one problem, it is always those 3. I have a missing link, but i thought if u have a safc...u dont need the missing link anymore. I was only boosting like 7lbs.

crxfreak88 04-24-2004 06:23 PM

Re:3lbs no matter what i do...what can be wrong
 
So is it hooked up or not . The missing link that is.Are you running the 450 injectors with the hack. or are you using an Fmu?

tranceminister 04-24-2004 09:29 PM

Re:3lbs no matter what i do...what can be wrong
 
Yeah, please let us know everything in your setup. If you are running the AFC, take out that missing link... Also, what are the Safc settings? Sounds like it's not setup correctly.

playboyace35 04-25-2004 01:21 AM

Re:3lbs no matter what i do...what can be wrong
 
running the injector with the safc, and no missing link

tranceminister 04-25-2004 08:35 AM

Re:3lbs no matter what i do...what can be wrong
 

Originally Posted by tranceminister
Also, what are the Safc settings? Sounds like it's not setup correctly.

Uhrm,uhrm...

willahlborn 04-25-2004 08:46 AM

Re:3lbs no matter what i do...what can be wrong
 
When I first put in my dsm 450s and my SAFC I had no turbo, so I started with settings of -40% across the board. Even though that shouldn't have been too lean, it apparently was, and I kept getting the problem you're describing upon deceleration and heavy throttle. I'd reccomend actually increasing your settings (to about -35%) and see what happens. It's counter-intuitive, but it worked for me. Until I started using Uberdata. ;D Now it runs like a champ.

playboyace35 04-25-2004 02:10 PM

Re:3lbs no matter what i do...what can be wrong
 
okay how should i set my safc, haha id ont realli know how to set it, give me a clear detail on how to, :)

tranceminister 04-25-2004 02:20 PM

Re:3lbs no matter what i do...what can be wrong
 
Well firsto off, for vehichle settings, Select the 4cyl. mode. Then 06in-06out, select the arrow pointing up and to the right a bit(not sure how to describe it). then dial in your AFC correction areas and you'll be good to go. Check out the "new users" section of Forced induction. I'm pretty sure theres a writeup on how to set the AFC up.
I'm basically going by memory and don't have my AFC anymore, so anyone who knows for sure what settings you should start off with could probably help you out.

playboyace35 04-25-2004 04:32 PM

Re:3lbs no matter what i do...what can be wrong
 
okay....um....im currently boosting at 7psi with a t3 garrent turbo with a external deltagate wastegate on a ls engine...what should be my settings be around? I will need extreme details because im such a newbie, i would test/tune it, but i dont know will that fix my problems, so i will tune it at home and if the problem do go away, then i willl go test/tune it.
i wanna know the information on everysingle setting on the safc, if u guys can help me. the Hi/Lo - thrtl...Th-point....Ne-point.....dec. -air....and everything else i will need. Thanks guys......n girls? haha :)


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