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shifter 10-09-2006 05:02 PM

300 km/h
 
how do you think, is it possible to get to 300 km/h in civic with b16a + turbo? willengine survive that? i've calculated and got if i install LS 5th gear into my YS1 tranny and get 205/45/r17 wheels i can get 302 km/h at 8250 revs. but how much horsepower i need to get there?

Ogubudiah 10-09-2006 05:17 PM

Re: 300 km/h
 
not gonna happen.

shifter 10-09-2006 05:22 PM

Re: 300 km/h
 
iam talk about only short trip to 300 kmh. why it's not possible? what will brake or will not handle?

mike94se 10-09-2006 05:31 PM

Re: 300 km/h
 
This is why God made engines more than 4 cylinders and heavier cars

sailman 10-09-2006 05:33 PM

Re: 300 km/h
 
where do you plan on doing this? dont be a ------ immature ass and try it on the street


do you have a roll cage, racing seat, 5 point harness, amazing braking system (ir even a parachute) and a helme/neck restraint nd arm restraints so if you did get in trouble going that fast you would actually stand a chance of living?

Inquisition 10-09-2006 05:35 PM

Re: 300 km/h
 
http://www.gamedev.net/reference/art...rticle1615.asp

Too hard to hit up google? Figure 500whp but I'd expect at about 160-170mph your car is going to shake itself to death and you will end up dead as a result of said shaking. Going nearly 200mph is no joke. I hope you have a nice straight road that is a controlled enivornment to make such a pull.

igotnothin 10-09-2006 05:41 PM

Re: 300 km/h
 
i have been thinking about an imiture thing to do on the road. not that it will hapen but what is nescisary to make a fith gear pull and not own the engine. i mean can it be done. lets say you were to run from tlhe police and would like to run at 140 mph on the highway. Not that i would do that. jsut wondering what would need to be done in a build if at all posible.

Inquisition 10-09-2006 05:50 PM

Re: 300 km/h
 
Learn to spell half of the words you type, then we will talk about how to make your engine last at high speeds.

shifter 10-09-2006 05:54 PM

Re: 300 km/h
 

Originally Posted by Inquisition
Learn to spell half of the words you type, then we will talk about how to make your engine last at high speeds.

heh. and do you know what to do? lol.

Walter 10-09-2006 06:01 PM

Re: 300 km/h
 
i would like to know what you're smoking man...

shifter 10-09-2006 06:09 PM

Re: 300 km/h
 
any1 can say something useful? or only lame "it would never happen"? honda-techers...

Walter 10-09-2006 06:17 PM

Re: 300 km/h
 
look guy. i dunno if it's possible to run 302 Km/k only changing LS 5th gear in you yS1 .. you need alot of power.. i assume about 500-600 WHP , civic is not made for run until that speed.. so it's more likely you can not to control the car...

sailman 10-09-2006 06:18 PM

Re: 300 km/h
 
im telling you something usefull, dont do it or you will die, is that not usefull enough to you, a civic is bottom line an economy car, never meant to go that fast, teh suspension wasnt built for it, the chassis doesnt have the right support, the body is not stable at high speeds

do you know how ------ light teh back end of a civic gets at 150? try testing at 300 and see what happens


if you want help go to www.daydreamers.org but other than that HMT is here to help with technical advice on building turbo set ups, and hell if you have something of an "in an ideal world what b series parts would you put all together to build the best motor and why" type post im sure you will get a good response, other than that your 300km/h question is useless

ichbinsobose 10-09-2006 06:24 PM

Re: 300 km/h
 
look at the drag cars in the h-t drag forum
they tag close to that in the quarter
i bet one of those cars with the proper gearing could hit it
you need suspension work, fiberglass aerodynaic body, extreme downforce, etc
the power to get there is the easisest part

shifter 10-09-2006 06:43 PM

Re: 300 km/h
 
i know bimmer m3 can get to 270 kmh, bimmer m5 can get into 290 kmh. and they dont look like sport cars with huge wings for downforce. and m3 has only 282 ENGINE hps. and my friend has drove it. so it can get there. anyway, you can always add front and rear spoiler to add some downforce. gay alum wing from ebay had bend a little my trunk with just 150 kmh. and 300-350 hps to the wheel is not a problem. i dont say about track racing for a long time - just short trip to 200 mph. suspension? where the problem exactly? why it will not handle that speed??

Walter 10-09-2006 06:50 PM

Re: 300 km/h
 
:6 i love the webpage daydreamers.org ;D

ichbinsobose 10-09-2006 06:55 PM

Re: 300 km/h
 
If you post in this thread without looking at the drag cars on ht, kill yourself. I gave you some good advice, take it.
It will take more money to get a honda to 200mph then a bmw. Dont post in this thread till you do some research on cars that come close.

shifter 10-09-2006 07:35 PM

Re: 300 km/h
 
i've looked a lot on drag cars. i dont see any reasons not be able to go up to 200 mph. and also there no one incl. you didt said why it's not possible, or what need to done to go to 200 mph. just bullshit talks.

Ludique 10-09-2006 07:46 PM

Re: 300 km/h
 
Get yourself a Busa or a ZX-14.

Get a prepaid funeral.

mike94se 10-09-2006 07:53 PM

Re: 300 km/h
 
Add a boosted 602. That'll give you your 200 mph ::)



Dumb god------- jewfaggot

shifter 10-09-2006 08:03 PM

Re: 300 km/h
 
loosers

Zeniceguycrx 10-09-2006 08:13 PM

Re: 300 km/h
 
you already know what u need, start adding power and start trying. then u know

mike94se 10-09-2006 08:36 PM

Re: 300 km/h
 
www.turbob16.com

There you ------- faggot ::)

ifly87 10-10-2006 11:49 AM

Re: 300 km/h
 
Its been done, I believe it was the owner of AEM hit 210 on the salt flats, he counterbored a b16 to a 1.5 and used a huge ass turbo with a distributorless ignition. 2000 civic I believe stock suspension, stock brakes, almolst stock body gutted and caged of course. there was a big writeup in some magazine a month or two ago.

ryan89crx 10-10-2006 12:42 PM

Re: 300 km/h
 

Originally Posted by shifter
any1 can say something useful? or only lame "it would never happen"? honda-techers...

it will never happen :S

salesmonkey 10-10-2006 01:01 PM

Re: 300 km/h
 
300km/h is about 185mph. i think it could be done with enough hp and the right gearing. but its not reasonable. i think 150-160 is where you should be aiming. im afraid to boost my car in 5th gear much at all because i dont want to ruin another engine. ive went about 140mph without going over 5psi boost. im set for 14pounds on a b16. so 160 would be pretty easy at full capasity. 185 could easily be done with 600hp. but wtf happens then? i dont know so go video tape yourself doing it and make this dream into reality. OK?

shifter 10-10-2006 01:26 PM

Re: 300 km/h
 
i will try. but need some time to get money for a car. i plan to do swap 5th LS gear into my YS1 tranny to get 189 mph on 205/45/r17 wheels on 8250. but i am afraid to ruin engine too. so i want to know what to do to engine to make it handle that. i think problem will be cooling system. i need fat big water radiator and i need oil cooler i think. i dont think that i will need be 600 hp to get there. as i said before bmw m3 with only 282 hps can get to 168 mph. and bimmer is heiver and has bigger drag coef.

Zeniceguycrx 10-10-2006 05:41 PM

Re: 300 km/h
 
---- hp, u need TQ to do this

shifter 10-10-2006 06:18 PM

Re: 300 km/h
 
well, you cant get torque without hp, and vice versa. and revs will take lack of torque i hope =)) what about engine cooling? will be it necessary to amke oil cooler or not? will stock h22a water radiator be enough to cool engine?

kamilk69 10-10-2006 06:28 PM

Re: 300 km/h
 
i think that the engine cooling should be enough, you should be worring about tranny cooling, 300kph on those gears could really heat ---- up.

shifter 10-10-2006 06:31 PM

Re: 300 km/h
 
hm. i didnt thought in that way... i need some pump to cool oil in tranny.. need to research that thing.

Inquisition 10-10-2006 08:04 PM

Re: 300 km/h
 
Making an engine hold long high speed pulls is simple. Its called overbuild. Aftermarket sleeves would be strongly suggested but also aftermarket pistons/rods are a must if you plan on doing this more than once. You are going to want relatively loose piston to wall clearances because as the heat in the engine builds, the pistons will expand more and more. You don't want them to expand so much they rub against the sleeve. Another thing you should be looking into is meth/water injection to draw the heat out of the damn combustion chamber. The real problem with going that fast is the aerodynamics/safety. 185mph is fast. The car has a high probability to shake itself to death. You will need to stiffen everything and make sure the car can absorb any of the various movements. Basically when you are looking to go fast you need to really overbuild everything. A 90mph collision vs a 185mph is a huge difference. I wouldn't want to be anywhere near your car while you are driving in the excess of 60mph let alone 185mph.

mike94se 10-10-2006 08:19 PM

Re: 300 km/h
 

Originally Posted by Inquisition
I wouldn't want to be anywhere near your car while you are driving in the excess of 60mph let alone 185mph.

I wouldn't want to be anywhere in vincinity

gtimportfanatic 10-10-2006 08:24 PM

Re: 300 km/h
 

Originally Posted by Zeniceguycrx
---- hp, u need TQ to do this

what in fucks name are u talking about... torque gets u off the line.. HP helps on the top end.. of course he's gonna need some torque.. but HP is what he really needs

Smith-02 10-10-2006 08:36 PM

Re: 300 km/h
 

Originally Posted by shifter
hm. i didnt thought in that way... i need some pump to cool oil in tranny.. need to research that thing.

oil pump attached at drain plug. return attached to fill plug :l

Donald125 10-10-2006 08:45 PM

Re: 300 km/h
 
i don`t see how it is "NOT possible" ::)

but to get up there you will prob.ly NEED some mad sick true body kit to settle the car

shifter 10-11-2006 01:51 AM

Re: 300 km/h
 

Originally Posted by c0mpl3x
oil pump attached at drain plug. return attached to fill plug :l

pump for power steering will work for that?

ichbinsobose 10-11-2006 01:54 AM

Re: 300 km/h
 
------- idiot last time
buy a drag car from ht
they have a civic that goes 7's @ 300km
------- buy it, drive it, fist yourself ::)

Smith-02 10-11-2006 02:01 AM

Re: 300 km/h
 

Originally Posted by shifter
pump for power steering will work for that?

sure. but electric will drag your motor down less, and you can have it set to shut off after xxx seconds. kinda like an anti-coke for the turbo oil supply in a way

mike94se 10-11-2006 02:06 AM

Re: 300 km/h
 

Originally Posted by ichbinsobose
------- idiot last time
buy a drag car from ht
they have a civic that goes 7's @ 300km
------- buy it, drive it, fist yourself ::)

Stop holding back


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