200hp D16y7 Setup. What will it take?
 

I am looking to run a turbo setup on my d16y7. I know it's a bad motor to start, but what do I need to get 200hp or so or is it even a realistic goal? I am considering running a afc hack with 450's at around 10psi. Do you think that will get there? I'll up the fuel pump and all that good stuff. Can 10psi be run with a hack for management or is there a safer option without dropping a fortune on a standalone or something. Thanks for your replies.

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the d16y7 is a good engine to run boost because its not vtec and wont overheat as much because theres no valve overlap.

u can run 200hp with a vafc at 10 psi easily.

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never heard of vtec or valve overlap causeing a motor to overheat ???

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dont trust newbies.

Nick

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So is a 200hp d16y7 really an option without building the junk out of the bottom end? Will teh afc hack with 450's get me to 200hp on stock motor? And is 200 safe to run if managed well on stock internals.

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200 hp seems like a logical goal, since d-series internals are about maxxed out for reliability at around 220 whp

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overlap doesnt cause heat on na cars.

it does make more heat than non overlaping vlaves on turbo cars.

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dont trust newbies.

Nick
Ur the newbie bolt on boy. >:(

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care to elaborate?...i wont pretend to know much about it, but i dont see how the intake and exh valves being open at the same time and allowing boost to go out the exhaust pretty much is going to cause an increase in temp

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it happens when the tb is closed and the valve openings create a vacuum that may suck the gases back in the other way.

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hahah sinner he called you bolt on boy

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never heard of that, learn something new everyday i guess...but ive never really seen any hondas with cooling probs

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i dont anticipate any heat probs at 18psi
heh

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i want 18psi :'(

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I think the first question to ask here is do you want 200 WHP? Or 200 at the crank??

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over lap causes overheating in na cars not turbo cars.There is little overlap on new cars because of emissions.

What he is a talking about is reversion where there is a period of time where exhaust can revert back into the intake charge. It delutes the incoming charge and can cause it to warm up. I doubt It will happen on a honda.
I does on my 454.

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I would like the 200 to the wheels, the more the better, but it may be realistic. I have 106 with the stock, so If I could about double it, I think I will be happy. I assume the 106 is at the crank. Lets go with 200 to the wheels is it possible, meaning safe on the motor, and what will it take. Will 10psi get me there you think and if not, how short will I most likely fall. I say 10 psi because I have read that is about tops for a hack job management. Any more opinions. Thanks

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you can go higher if you want with the afc hack, but 10 psi (maybe a little more) should be ok for about 200 at the wheels...only way to know is to do it and dyno it, no need to guess before hand. if someone tells you it wont happen, are you going to scrap your turbo ideas?

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I am going go with the afc hack. Is that the way to go. For the money. I want to do the whole setup for under a grand.

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does anyone have experience with this setup? Or suggestions about what I need to hit 200hp

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this setup meaning the afc and 450s?...i use an smc500 and 450s (pretty much the same thing)...its decent, but swapping to obd1 and using uberdata is probably a better idea, although the afc will work fine for up to about 13 psi, you can go higher but its not really the best idea

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Right on. So the afc hack can handle up to 13psi. I didnt know it did that much. Too bad the d16y7 is week and wont handle that much power. Thanks for your help.

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ok...the d16y7 is not especially weak. all d-series pretty much suck. I have personally run 13 psi on a stock d16y7 with no problems for months. to re-phrase myself, the afc can be used for high boost, but its not the best route. many people would say not to go over 10-12 psi, i just tossed 13 psi out there. it all depends on how long you want it to last. 200 hp at the wheels is close to what many consider the limit for a reliable d-series. however, if you dont care how long it lasts, people have been known to get 300 hp out of stock d's, but it wont last forever.

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hankmorgan - I'm also turboing my d16y7 although I'm gonna stick with 8 psi. I'm hoping for 170ish to the wheels with a T3 turbo and the hack.

If you get a good sized turbo (aka not a T25) you might be able to make that much HP to the wheels with 10 psi.

Don't worry about HP numbers for now, just worry about doing the job right and getting good parts. After it's all together and working (with your motor intact - this part is important) THEN worry about tuning and getting 200 whp.

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well said

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Thanks :)

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Thanks again for your help guys. I was just shooting for 200 as a goal. Thats what I would like, about double what I have now, that would make it worth the money in my opinion. I am just in the what if phase now doing some pricing and planning. I will definately go with good parts and do it right. Well, as right as my low budget will alow anyway. What is a good price for an intercooler. Good meaning cheap but works.

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Will I most likely need a new clutch with that much power or does the stock one hold up ok. And do I need a new fuel pump or that kind of optional with this setup.

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You can get DSM intercoolers at a boneyard for like $35-$45. If you wanna get a nice one, buy a Tyrus intercooler. Tons of people on here have them (myself included), and they are like $250, but worth every penny for a nice front mount IC.

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Cool. I have heard good stuff about the tyrus IC's. What about clutch and fuel pump. Are they needed most likely with a turbo setup

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I'm @ 185 whp @ 7 psi... So is my T25 a "bad" size? :P

It doesn't even "die off" up top like so many people think. Fact is, people tend to bolt T25's to *crap* manifolds when they dot a T25 on a honda. I ported an STD mani, spent some time on the adapter plate, and port matched the exhaust housing on the turbo as well. Pulls like a mofo from 2800 rpm's, and like 2 mofo's above 5k. BTW, my car is built for autox.

(sigh) my poor little unappreciated turbo... Please y'all. Unappreciate 'em some more so I can get them cheaper. This one won't last forever...

edit: forgot to mention I did a vtec head and tranny swap on my d16y"7". Heat? Whatever...