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trex661 11-02-2006 04:12 AM

14b vs t3 42/48
 
well i havent started the set-up of my 14b yet because im have second thought about the 14b. anyway how much better is the t3 42/48 set-up in the top end compared to the 14b. i mean having a stock d16a6 which i can only push 225hp on a good tune i hope the 14b can do that this is just a temp thing until i can save up enough money for my 350hp build. anyway well here is what i have so far:


d16a6
std manifold
14b turbo with o2 housing-very minimal shaft play
450 cc dsm injectors
1g bov
srt 4 intercooler
xenocron chipped pm6



i havent bought the oil lines yet cuz im still thinking in weather to trade my 14b for a t3 42/48 or keeping it since i already have it.

trex661 11-02-2006 04:17 AM

Re: 14b vs t3 42/48
 
yes i have searched and i no 14b set-ups have been covered and are popular but ever so often i see t3 42/48 set-ups. im just looking for the turbo that spools around 3500 to 4000 and has good top end power for a hmt set-up. anyway anybody with experiences with either set-up can you please post your story

Hitchhikkr 11-02-2006 10:59 AM

Re: 14b vs t3 42/48
 
Im new to hondas, but a former DSMer. The unported 14b has been proven to efficiently put 250whp down on dsms, so the turbo is capable. Im pretty sure it will spool long before 3500rpms, but the 14b doesnt really even wake up on a 4g63/4g61 until around 14psi. Before anyone starts to flame me yes I am aware of the differences of the engines.

Plus, you could always upgrade to the 16g later on ($350-550 depending where u find it).

On the other hand, Garrett stuff is cheaper in the long run... ;)

ryan89crx 11-02-2006 11:17 AM

Re: 14b vs t3 42/48
 

Originally Posted by trex661
yes i have searched and i no 14b set-ups have been covered and are popular but ever so often i see t3 42/48 set-ups. im just looking for the turbo that spools around 3500 to 4000 and has good top end power for a hmt set-up. anyway anybody with experiences with either set-up can you please post your story

with my .42/.48 i get 12psi by 3300 on my stock a6. and it holds power through redline

mycrx 11-02-2006 11:19 AM

Re: 14b vs t3 42/48
 
dsm turbos are piles of worthless ----!

ifly87 11-02-2006 11:28 AM

Re: 14b vs t3 42/48
 

Originally Posted by mycrx
dsm's turbos are piles of worthless ----!

Fixed that for you

McBoost 11-02-2006 11:31 AM

Re: 14b vs t3 42/48
 
T3/T4 > 14b

bitchasscracker 11-02-2006 11:52 AM

Re: 14b vs t3 42/48
 
it depends like if your talking about the chrysler ones those suck and would deff use the 14b over that hunk of ----



i'm using the 14b on me sohc zc set-up so i recomend it.


go to the tech project of the left hand side of the screen there is like 4-5 turbo set-up's with them

0b00st0 11-02-2006 11:56 AM

Re: 14b vs t3 42/48
 

Originally Posted by ryan89crx
with my .42/.48 i get 12psi by 3300 on my stock a6. and it holds power through redline


Holding power through redline is nothing. It's holding torque that means something.




bitchasscracker 11-02-2006 02:06 PM

Re: 14b vs t3 42/48
 

Originally Posted by MADMAX

Holding power through redline is nothing. It's holding torque that means something.





yea if it holds torque to 4500 then falls flat on its face, thats what you want :1

trex661 11-02-2006 02:47 PM

Re: 14b vs t3 42/48
 
well yeah i have checked out the tech projects already and the 14b has good reviews and all but i was just wondering if the t3 42/48 had better qualities.


hey bitchasscracker do you have pics of your set-up or any numbers.

ryan89crx 11-02-2006 02:47 PM

Re: 14b vs t3 42/48
 

Originally Posted by MADMAX

Holding power through redline is nothing. It's holding torque that means something.




well the new snail is a t3/t4 .48/.60 54trim, so i dont think that will be a problem...

TunerToys 11-04-2006 09:38 PM

Re: 14b vs t3 42/48
 
My 14B is a little weak in the lower end of the power band, but I think that is from the low compression ratio from the Vitaras. I bet it will work fine and be a great first turbo project for your application.

Craig

zex_cool 11-04-2006 09:58 PM

Re: 14b vs t3 42/48
 
16g FTMFW ! ! ! !

bitchasscracker 11-04-2006 10:08 PM

Re: 14b vs t3 42/48
 
there is some guy on turbod16 who put down 234hp@11psi wit it.



so i want to se what i can do at 15 lol

zex_cool 11-04-2006 10:23 PM

Re: 14b vs t3 42/48
 
my is in my sig. 193whp on 8psi 8)

drunkinmaster1 11-04-2006 10:35 PM

Re: 14b vs t3 42/48
 
ive had both mistubishi , and garrett turbos and whould have to say that id go with the t3 turbo over the 14b because the t3 imo is easier to work on. the parts are easier to find ( no j-pipe ). and they cost less to rebuild. im sure the power levels between the 2 are pretty close. the evo 4 through 8 turbos are all twin scroll thus making it even harder to work on. where-as the t3/t4 just bolts right up onto the same t3 flange.

90dx 11-04-2006 11:17 PM

Re: 14b vs t3 42/48
 
The T3 would be a better choice for the long run as you can easily upgrade without changing much.I put a T3 .42 .48 on a locals CRX with a D16a6 and it works well.I owuld prefer bigger but it is just enough.We have it running 12-13psi right now and it moves pretty good.

bitchasscracker 11-05-2006 01:49 AM

Re: 14b vs t3 42/48
 
your all missing the point he says he already has the 14b, and is wondering if he should get a a garrett .42 .48 instead of it. my answer is no you already got a turbo just use it till it is maxed out then upgrade (250ish hp). no use spending extra money if you dont have too.

drunkinmaster1 11-05-2006 02:18 AM

Re: 14b vs t3 42/48
 

Originally Posted by bitchasscracker
your all missing the point he says he already has the 14b, and is wondering if he should get a a garrett .42 .48 instead of it. my answer is no you already got a turbo just use it till it is maxed out then upgrade (250ish hp). no use spending extra money if you dont have too.


Originally Posted by trex661
until i can save up enough money for my 350hp build.

like i said, garett because he can upgrade to a t3/t4 instead of a duelscroll 16g

leed 11-05-2006 02:19 AM

Re: 14b vs t3 42/48
 

Originally Posted by bitchasscracker
your all missing the point he says he already has the 14b, and is wondering if he should get a a garrett .42 .48 instead of it. my answer is no you already got a turbo just use it till it is maxed out then upgrade (250ish hp). no use spending extra money if you dont have too.

Thats what I would do too. Run what you have.
As far as power or spool diff. between the two, I think you'd be splitting hairs there.

trex661 11-05-2006 02:19 AM

Re: 14b vs t3 42/48
 
thanks guy im just going to keep the 14b so i can get started on my set-up will see how it does . after my 14b i plan a t3/t4 57 trim and 63 a.r of course after a vitara build with eagle rods. anyway thanks for your help guys well see what this coming year has on this 14b.

trex661 11-05-2006 02:23 AM

Re: 14b vs t3 42/48
 
im just trying out boost for the first time so i figured hey try a hmt set-up with a junkyard turbo and see how it goes first.


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