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91AccordLX 10-14-2003 09:27 PM

100 miles+ Daily Driver turbo?
 
Has/does anyone have a home made turbo on their daily driver that drives a minimum of 100 miles and up to 180 miles maximum? Can a stock honda engine take the boost for that kind of driving everyday?

Here's why I ask... I got a real good new job that I have to drive about 55miles each way and I'm wondering if I should keep my project alive? The drive is strictly freeway and going AGAINST traffic, so there isn't much stop and go traffic. But I need a reliable car!
Setup would be:
TDO4 8psi
450cc w/SAFC II
36x8x2 IC
Give your thoughts!

Dr.Boost 10-14-2003 09:32 PM

Re:100 miles+ Daily Driver turbo?
 
It all comes down to tuning. Tune that bitch good and it will run forever.

Some people have shitty luck and some people get lucky. I beat the ---- out of my D15 for quite a few thousand miles and it took every bit of it with a smile. Some people say they blew there D15 within a few hundred miles. I dunno? I never drove out of town with mine. ???
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shortyz 10-14-2003 09:46 PM

Re:100 miles+ Daily Driver turbo?
 
i drive about 140km a day, and i sed fuckit with the turbo kit for now, i cant afford to have my car break and not be able to get to school..

to you it would be work.

anthony88 10-14-2003 10:04 PM

Re:100 miles+ Daily Driver turbo?
 
i say buy a spare motor and drive it easy and it wont boost i try to keep a spare motor at all times

91AccordLX 10-14-2003 11:40 PM

Re:100 miles+ Daily Driver turbo?
 

Originally Posted by shortyz
i drive about 140km a day, and i sed fuckit with the turbo kit for now, i cant afford to have my car break and not be able to get to school..

to you it would be work.


Exactly, that's why I posted this, I need a reliable car that can make it 100+ miles a day. But I wanted to get some feedback from anyone that drives 100+ miles a day on their turboed honda.


And for getting a spare engine.. refer above :-X
As for driving it easy so it doesn't boost? why even have a turbo then? :D

bikerchris13 10-15-2003 11:41 AM

Re:100 miles+ Daily Driver turbo?
 
if you are just cruising on the freeway you aren't going to be building boost (unless your foot is in it)
it would just be rolling the air along and will not damage the motor, plus you have that turbo power pull whenever you want it ;D

greddycrx 10-15-2003 12:01 PM

Re:100 miles+ Daily Driver turbo?
 
yeah, you dont have to boost all day, everyday! Well maybe everyday but not constantly. when you're on the freeway you're not really boosting unless you rev it to where it spools up at. remember when you drive normal your car is not boosting much at all until it spools...

projekteg 10-15-2003 12:21 PM

Re:100 miles+ Daily Driver turbo?
 
yeah, but if you got an si tranny, your at 5k rpms at highway speeds :P

bikerchris13 10-15-2003 12:34 PM

Re:100 miles+ Daily Driver turbo?
 
correct me if i'm wrong, but judging by his name, he's got an accord which should be more conservative at hwy speeds, at least, i would think

davcivic 10-15-2003 01:14 PM

Re:100 miles+ Daily Driver turbo?
 
As long as it is tuned correctly you should have no problems. At highway speeds you probably won't be boosting anyways, and if it is only 5-8 psi you should be able to drive it daily. It's only about 55 miles one way then you will stop the car for what about 8-9 hours and then back 55 miles. Yous should be fine. Now if it was 100+ miles of crazy boosting then I would be worried.

greddycrx 10-15-2003 01:21 PM

Re:100 miles+ Daily Driver turbo?
 
uh more like 3000-4000 rpm's on highways speeds. i mean if you at least go somewhere around the speed limit and not turn into a wreckless driver like most of us are... ::)

SpeedyJAY 10-15-2003 01:47 PM

Re:100 miles+ Daily Driver turbo?
 
I am planning on the same thing, Turboing my daily driver, and here is what I have found out.

W/O internal build up you should be fine 6-8psi, granted you have the following, tuned fuel and ignition. I plan on using the 450cc injectors w/ AFC /BTM (boost timing management). An intercooler is also a must have.

Also you are going to have to start using 92 or higher Octane fuel to help prevent detonition.

The bottom ends on D blocks are usually good to about 200hp minus a little, well tuned (W/o fuel management they blow quick) and reliable, B's can take a little more. I am not to sure about the F blocks (Accord engines) should have a bit stronger rods since they are a bit bigger, but I dont really know since Ive never opened one up.

Also dont skim money from ANYTHING, like oil fittings for example. Get Stainess lines with threaded connections on everything. Basically bulletproof the oil/coolent lines.

For prolonged driving later down the line you might think about a larger radiator core/oil cooler after the turbo, to help the engine reach some cooler temps down the freeway.

RENR 10-15-2003 01:47 PM

Re:100 miles+ Daily Driver turbo?
 
i dont think he should be worried too much about the motor. as long as your not flooring it everywhere its like drinve a normal car.91accordlx, you need to worry about how your tranny is going to handle the boost. its an auto and i dont know how much torque they can handle. let us know!

91AccordLX 10-15-2003 09:46 PM

Re:100 miles+ Daily Driver turbo?
 

Originally Posted by davcivic
As long as it is tuned correctly you should have no problems. At highway speeds you probably won't be boosting anyways, and if it is only 5-8 psi you should be able to drive it daily. It's only about 55 miles one way then you will stop the car for what about 8-9 hours and then back 55 miles. Yous should be fine. Now if it was 100+ miles of crazy boosting then I would be worried.


True I would be cruising most of the way, except my cruising speed is about 85mph :P that would be about 3500-4000rpm. That kind of RPM with a small TD04 and a 2.2L engine would = near constant boost no? And I do tend to pass alot, but not where I pass then have slam on my breaks so I don't hit the car in the lane I just changed into. :o

SpeedyJAY 10-15-2003 11:33 PM

Re:100 miles+ Daily Driver turbo?
 
It doesnt matter what RPM you are at, only if under a load will you boost, like having nitrous permenantly

JD 10-16-2003 06:11 AM

Re:100 miles+ Daily Driver turbo?
 
Whats up buddy. I used to have the td04 in my accord and everytime I went on the freeway and was going above 70 and hit the gas it went into fulll boost. When I switched to the 14b I didnt have that problem anymore. The td04 is fine for friving around town but hits boost way to easy on our engines when we are on the highway. So no your engine even when tuned properly wont last too long with the td04 on highway drives. Now if you go to a little larger turbo it will work just fine. Try the 14b and see how that works. Remember that td04 was on a 2.0 liter engine with a perfect engine management from the factory and still boosted pretty damn quick.

scttydb411 10-16-2003 11:18 PM

Re:100 miles+ Daily Driver turbo?
 
i've averaged over 2k miles/month since i put on my turbo. 10psi and i beat on it all the time. just make sure you have a good tune.

go for it!

Semnos 10-17-2003 08:40 AM

Re:100 miles+ Daily Driver turbo?
 
yup only when under load it will boost.
When i was tuerboed i could cruise on the highway at 5K rpm's and not boost.
I was just lightly pressing the gas just holding it like a tad ...so the rpm's rose slowly and evenly. It won't boost like that...no load

krskid 10-17-2003 01:41 PM

Re:100 miles+ Daily Driver turbo?
 
55mi. commute isn't bad. my friend has a greddy kit with the bluebox and he had a 180mi commute once a week. i asked him how it was and he said he hardly even builds boost on the freeway. He did that for over a year and his car is running great.

JD 10-17-2003 05:14 PM

Re:100 miles+ Daily Driver turbo?
 
dont most of you guys drive around 1.6 or 1.8 liter engines? I can definetly see how the tdo4 would be fine on something smaller like that but its a little different on a 2.2 like we have. When I had the tdo4 on my f22a1 i had full boost by 2200 (10psi) and I really didnt even have to floor it. Like I said the tdo4 is fun as hell during city driving but I just hated how it would hit tons of boost any time I just accelerated a little on the highway. Also the f22a doesnt have as much rpm to play with, ---- it makes its peak power at around 5300 and then dies off past then.

toupe95 10-18-2003 01:35 PM

Re:100 miles+ Daily Driver turbo?
 
I agree with the tuning that everyone is hitting home, but heat is the biggest menace to turbos, so my tip would be a decent turbo timer. Remote start that works with the timer will make life easiest. ;)

91AccordLX 10-18-2003 03:55 PM

Re:100 miles+ Daily Driver turbo?
 

Originally Posted by toupe95
I agree with the tuning that everyone is hitting home, but heat is the biggest menace to turbos, so my tip would be a decent turbo timer. Remote start that works with the timer will make life easiest. ;)


You know, I've been thinking about that.. Turbo timers are used to let the turbo cool down with fresh oil flowing through it after the car is stopped right? But I'm thinking why can't you just use your cooling fans to cool the turbo? Like 5-10 mins to your destination, turn on your AC, which turns on your fans and just drive it in easy? I don't know about Civics, but on my Accord there's 2 fans and they're right in front of the turbo. It could also work for you guys who removed your AC, without the power rob of the compressor. What do you guys think?


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