$400 Limit to Turbo??
 

i have a dream....ok ok i have a goal.do you think its possible to spend no more than $400.00 to turbo my b16?i dont want anything special, it can be the most homemade,ghetto,weak ass setup ever, i just want some boost to play with.ill be running a completely stock b16a in my 93 hatch w/p28 ecu.i just want to run 5 or 6 psi so i dont have to worry about damage.what do you guys suggest?any thoughts?


lets hear it....

Re: $400 Limit to Turbo??
 

b series i probably say no well maybe if you can make your own mani/downpipe/chargepipes and get the material dirt cheap....if it was a D series you probably will have a better shot :-\ :-*

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B is a nogo unless you find a free or really cheap turbo manifold, Its all on the deals you can find. I did a friends D GHETTO for 523.55 (yess we added it up) but that was with making my own adapter plate and some really ghetto charge piping. Remember 5.0 f150s intake piping is your friend :)

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hmm well im gonna try, i think itd be pretty sweet if i could, being a B and all...i can machine flanges at work, and i have actually been wanting to attempt my own manifold, and as for ic piping ive seen some ghetto stuff so im sure i could match it.im just not sure about oil lines and all the small misc things needed

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for the oil lines I HIGHLY suggest getting the tuner toys fitting its much much much easier and faster than crappy brass tee's etc... aslo get couple other fittings for the drain from there. For the oil feed you can get a 3ft -4an ss line for like $20 and a fitting to go along with it $2 on ebay OR you can cough up $75 and get a COMPLETE oil feed/drian from stelthmode ;D then you got your intercooler, bov, injectors, chip, wiring, you can find awsome deals here in the classifieds :D Good Luck!!

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i cant use stock injectors since im only running 5-6psi?what chip and wiring?

Re: $400 Limit to Turbo??
 

well if you want to run a douch FMU you can use the stock (240cc) injectors but if you care about your motor i would buy some dsm 450cc injectors and chip your ECU with Uber, im pretty sure on your car your going to have to put some resitors for your injectors...i dont know too much about that becuase i didnt have to do it on my car :P now is the time for you to start reading,searching, basicly learning every thing you possibly can BEFORE you attempt to boost your car :)

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oh, well if i cant use stock injectors, i just happen to have some h22 injectors laying around...will that do?

and yes, im gonna start reading and researching for this

Re: $400 Limit to Turbo??
 

no i think those are 240cc also.....your going to need some off other Dimond Star Motors turbo cars that use larger injectors since there will be twice as much air flow you will need more fuel in the mix so you dont run lean and blow your motor ;)

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now will going ghetto (but still get some decent power out of it) on a d series, automatic obd 2 be doable?

Re: $400 Limit to Turbo??
 

uhhh...what ???

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how about starting your own thread, jack.wtf

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i tend to walk out of junkyards with injectors in my pockets....they can be free :)

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oh and if you do get them froma junkyard, you really should get the cleaned n flowed :D just becuase you have no idea of the condition they are in from a car that could have been there for many years

Re: $400 Limit to Turbo??
 

im looking into this, and i think i'll be able to do it....mainly bc of a HM mani and flanges, oh, and ebay:)

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okay..thanks.

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IO_303 has agreed to hook me up with a resistor box and injectors.....ill be making my own manifold,flanges and ic piping....and piecing together some ic piping.not sure which turbo i'll end up using, but i'll more than likely get a sidemount ic to save money.the stealthmode oil lines sounds worth the money for me.a dsm bov likely.and i saw someone on here that ships p28's (which i have) for $30.

this will be done;)

Re: $400 Limit to Turbo??
 

always plan on going over your budget. there will be things you didn't account for that you will need, or a problem you can only fix by throwing money at it. :P

Re: $400 Limit to Turbo??
 

my project cost me 700$ and its not that ghatto O0

Re: $400 Limit to Turbo??
 

Not true...H22 injectors are 310cc from the earlier lude's..they later went down to somewhere around 270cc
You can use those injectors fi your shooting for about 190-200 engine hp..maybe more with raised fuel pressure.
But you'll need an WBo2 etc to tune it right. But an FMU does the job everytime it's cheap and installation also, but on a high comp B16 I wouldn't really use it, cause a B16 ain't cheap.

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what fmu should i use or why shouldnt i use one?and how important is a WBo2?will i need a FPR or a manual boost controller??

btw obd2 h22 injectors are 280, not 270

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damn :-[ are you sure 270-280cc are efficient for 5-6 psi?? ???

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good luck mani think you can do it. ive been collecting parts for a few months now, just taking what i can get and so far ive prob spend 70 bucks and i have almost everything i need witht he exception of a few little things. just shop around.

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Ok, yes i am giving him a deal, I have done business with him on another site before, but good god all you people PMing me asking me for deals stop. Its been noone that has been posting here, but I am just trying to cut off any more PMs.

Anyway on the the subject...I think he can do it, the only 2 problems i can see is the exhaust manifold and the turbo itself.

Good luck man

Re: $400 Limit to Turbo??
 

If I remember correctly, Whitey did his TWIN turbo for like $500 total. You should be able to atleast get close

Re: $400 Limit to Turbo??
 

well, im starting out with absolutly nothing, so it wont be easy, but i can normally find good deals, i'll keep and update, i wont get started til this summer anyways

Re: $400 Limit to Turbo??
 

hahaha, true that, the angle work perfectly for the cold pipe on 4th gen civics, hahaha.

it cost me 400 to turbo my D, not including the cost of fuel management (about 900 bucks with wideband, burner, laptop, and injectors)

unless you got half your parts for free, theres no way you can turbo a B for 400. Get a job faggot.

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lmao get a job faggot?i ------- built and turboed an h23vtec with a turbonetics p-trim .81ar so shut the ---- up.im not trying to make a ------- monster with this b16 shitface, its simply to prove YOU wrong.but thanks for being around,you dick faced cum stain, its the people like you that i love to stomp completely over.

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Wow...calm down guys, spenser...he has a goal, let hem try. If he fails, he fails, if not good for him. 93hatchy, no need to return the ----...he dosent beleave you, just prove him wrong not call him more names

Hope i didnt overstep my bounds here, i know i am not a mod, just ---- like that pisses me off.

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---- you cock pocket, DO YOU NOT ------- UNDERSTAND THAT EVEN AT EXTREMELY DISCOUNTED PRICES YOU CAN'T TURBO A B FOR 400? SO THE ONLY ------- PERSON THAT WOULD KNOW IF HE COULD TURBO A B OR NOT FOR THAT PRICE IS YOU, SINCE YOU WOULD BE THE ONE WHO KNOWS WHAT HE CAN GET FOR FREE/90% OFF.

the fact of the matter is, that even on 50% discounted prices, you can't turbo a B for 400.

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O and I like this, you built and turboed a H23vtec, but you don't even know what a FMU or wideband o2 sensor is. dude, stfu you bitch ass nignog.

end yourself.

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WTF? I'm sure it can and has been done. If you can fabricate your manifold and charges pipes then I'm sure you can do it. Why the ---- couldn't you? Half of the ------- people on this website have boosted a car at some point for less than $500. Don't say it's not possible because it's very possible. Your setup looks like it cost a good $125 so STFU.
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Re: $400 Limit to Turbo??
 

If hes making his own manifold, downpipe and chargepipes, running stock injectors and a fmu, a 60 dollar j-yard turbo, and napa oil lines, then sure you might be able to get close. I didn't see that he mentioned making his own ----.

I made my first kit for as cheap as possible, took me over 6 months of waiting around for parts.

20 for the mani
5 for the adapter plate, another 5 more to get it cut.(got the studs from a old honda head
12 dollars for my bsp-npt adapter,
10.99 for the long oil line
5 for the short line
5 for the swivel fitting
2 for the T fitting
5 for the drain line
3.99 for the oil pan fitting (that i never used anyway)
50 bucks for the mr2 bov (best bov ever)
60 bucks for 3 u bends
24 bucks for 2 feet of 4ply couplers, stole the T-clamps from the junk yard
15 for a j bend for the exhaust
15 for the flex pipe
59.99 for the turbo
free intercooler, normal cost for a audi core like that would be about 100.

thats 300 bucks.

plus new oil, new oil filter, 10 feet of 2.5 exhaust pipe (20 bucks) random Ts, vacumn line(free from junkyard) 1 step colder plugs(20). catch can (about 10 bucks plus 6 for the lines) and a new air filter(20).

altogether it came to about 400 bucks.

That doesn't include the cost of welding rod and welding wire I had to buy, the argon, the honda bond, the drill bits, the taps and dies, and other tool costs (like a big set of snap ring pliers)

Plus the 420 6 puck clutch.
plus the 120 for the chip burner and two chips,
plus the 60 for the 450cc injectors,
plus the 400 for the wideband and egt,
and the 300 for the laptop,
4 for the O2 bung.
30 for oil pressure and coolant temp
and 40 for the boost gauge

Now that's all in canadian dollars.(prices in Us would be about 20% less)

Remember, this is for a D, not a B. I got a deal on a bunch of stuff, A bunch of free stuff, and I don't think I paid full price for anything but the wideband, clutch and U bends.

It is IMPOSSIBLE to built a kit for 400 for a B UNLESS you get half your ---- for free, or severly discounted.

Re: $400 Limit to Turbo??
 

Dude, it's been done. The only thing different is the manifold. I'm sure you can find or make a log manifold for around $100 which is close to what you would pay for a HF manifold and an adapter plate.


We're not talking about how much the gas and oil and parking tickets is going to cost. We're talking about putting a turbo on a car.

Are we forgeting what ------- website we're on?
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Re: $400 Limit to Turbo??
 

Dr.boost, I"m sure its been done, But i will guarentee you that the people who have done it didn't pay anywhere close to full price, infact, the metal alone would account for nearly half of the 400.

I"ll I"m trying to say is unless you have the connections, unless you have some parts, and unless you have the time to wait around for these 'great' deals, it can't be done.

prove me wrong.

Re: $400 Limit to Turbo??
 

i will prove you wrong.but hell what do i know?nothing.sucks to be me, MEH.

Re: $400 Limit to Turbo??
 

Yeah, I'll go buy a B16 and a Civic to put it in and piece together a turbo kit for $400 just to prove you wrong. I'll get back to you when I'm done.

Why can it be done on a D series and not a B series? The only difference is the manifold and it's not like that's such a big deal. I've seen used SSautoshit manifolds sell for $75(not that they are worth a ----, but still).

I'm sure we all have extra parts and pipes and ---- in the garage that will save some money here and there.

On a side note, it's impossible to put a turbo on a Honda.
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Re: $400 Limit to Turbo??
 

Doc could do it for $400.

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that's true, i've been told this by at least 3 people... so they must be right. (then i pop the hood)

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If this is your first time going turbo theres little chance you could do it for 400 or do it right i should say. If you built a few kits before you would know what to buy and make and might be able to do it. A decent turbo alone could run for200$, I have a smic if you want for cheap