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HMTguy 11-17-2006 10:58 PM

Re: Welding mild steel to cast
 
I don't think I've caught it from that yet

stillnoturbo 11-17-2006 11:04 PM

Re: Welding mild steel to cast
 
Well I'll bite the bullet and give it a try. I gotta pull off the intake manifold and header anyways since I have a new headgasket and intake/exhaust manifold gasket and some ARP head studs. So this will let me get the chance to mock things up with it's taken apart waiting for the stuff to come. I'll post some pics later this weekend.
John you should call it the "hotrex".

Originally Posted by Toysrme
Why would you use an expensive turbo then half ass a manifold? Just weld it together.

How am I half assing the manifold? I'd say that people who boost a L series in a Z use the 280ZX manifold cause it works just fine and can get good numbers out of it. It's not like a honda where everybody and their mothers make flanges and ---- for it. I can't think of a company that makes tubular L series turbo manifold and there would be one. Holy hell I couldn't or wouldnt want to imagine the price.

k24em2 11-17-2006 11:45 PM

Re: Welding mild steel to cast
 
Is it cast STEEL or cast IRON? You'll need two different rods.

HMTguy 11-17-2006 11:47 PM

Re: Welding mild steel to cast
 

Originally Posted by k24em2
Is it cast STEEL or cast IRON? You'll need two different rods.

What do you think? ::)

BigWheeze 11-18-2006 12:59 AM

Re: Welding mild steel to cast
 

Originally Posted by k24em2
Is it cast STEEL or cast IRON? You'll need two different rods.

You could weld any ferrous metal with a low to high Ni alloy electrode with you wanted to. mild steel is best welded with ER70-S6, E7018, ER70-S2, E70-T1
I still suggest using a nickel alloy or brass alloy to be on the safe side.

"When welding cast iron, the major problem is to avoid cracking the cast iron, or leaving it with locked-in stresses that might cause cracking in service. When welding cast steel, you normally need not worry about cracking, but you must be concerned about distortion, since steel will stretch – become permanently elongated – before it will break. Distortion can often destroy the utility of a casting just as completely as cracking."

HMTguy 11-18-2006 01:32 AM

Re: Welding mild steel to cast
 
Wanna quote your source?

BigWheeze 11-18-2006 01:40 AM

Re: Welding mild steel to cast
 

Originally Posted by jagojon3
Wanna quote your source?

ESAB Handbook - WELDING OTHER FERROUS METALS

0b00st0 11-18-2006 02:15 AM

Re: Welding mild steel to cast
 

Originally Posted by weiRtech
i'd tig weld it using 309L filler. not sure if this is proper methodology, but it has worked for me in the past.

I gotta try that.

How did you prep the cast before you tigged it? What kinda amperage are we talking about here?

I tried it once but the cast just popped all over the tungsten. However, I didn't grind it down or anything.



BigWheeze 11-18-2006 02:43 AM

Re: Welding mild steel to cast
 

Originally Posted by MADMAX
I gotta try that.

How did you prep the cast before you tigged it? What kinda amperage are we talking about here?

I tried it once but the cast just popped all over the tungsten. However, I didn't grind it down or anything.

You have to grind it untill all the pits from the rust are gone. I have only had luck on cast steel. I used 60-90A. I noticed the higher amperage I ran I had it 'pop' on me. I just used a slower rate of travel.


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