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stillnoturbo 11-17-2006 01:39 PM

Welding mild steel to cast
 
I'm finally boosting my Z after being what my name states, "stillnoturbo". My problem is I'm using a ZX turbo manifold so it has a t3 flange on it but I'm using a T4 and they t3-t4 adapters but it would push it too far and hit the shocktower. I've welded flanges onto stock D series manifolds but it was using smaller ihi turbos so weight wasnt too much of an issue. I mean I'm not gonna use my lil HF fluxcore welder to weld on the flange thats holding on my brand new T4 and watch my turbo in my rearview mirror laying on the road. I was talking to a older guy at work who used to weld for like 20 years and told me to braze it or some kind of nickel rod or something and stick weld it. The stock t3 flange is gonna be used for a place to mount my wastegate to.
The install and pics will come once I install a new headgasket and some arp headstuds I have coming. I still have to buy some mandrels bends to make my downpipe and chargepiping for the front mount. It's been damn near 3 years since I've built a turbo kit for myself to use on my own car. Installed my walbro since my old pump was going out and it started up and the leaking headgasket reveiled itself. God it felt good to hear it rumble to life thoough while gargling on some coolant.

gon3r 11-17-2006 01:52 PM

Re: Welding mild steel to cast
 
i'd tig weld it using 309L filler. not sure if this is proper methodology, but it has worked for me in the past.

Toysrme 11-17-2006 03:04 PM

Re: Welding mild steel to cast
 
Why would you use an expensive turbo then half ass a manifold? Just weld it together.

HMTguy 11-17-2006 03:05 PM

Re: Welding mild steel to cast
 
Don't be afraid to flux it! You remember what my downpipe looks like right?

I know this is a turbo, but I still think you can flux it. I hear people say all the time to heat up the cast piece first, it probably helps but I didn't do it. Just turn your heat allll the way up (My shitty welder only has a low or a high setting, lol) and weld onto the cast and sorta drag it onto the steel to prevent burning through it. Post pics whatever way you go though!

SpankedYA! 11-17-2006 04:44 PM

Re: Welding mild steel to cast
 
I have welded Cast to steel and its been fine.

iceracercrx 11-17-2006 05:11 PM

Re: Welding mild steel to cast
 
Nickel is the key. 309L has some in there that is why it works pretty well. More nickel the better, but too much can have problems also. Grind the cast so it is very clean before welding.

Randy

BigWheeze 11-17-2006 10:14 PM

Re: Welding mild steel to cast
 

Originally Posted by iceracercrx
Nickel is the key. 309L has some in there that is why it works pretty well. More nickel the better, but too much can have problems also. Grind the cast so it is very clean before welding.

Randy

Cast Iron really should be done with capillary adhesion for a sound 'weld'. Torch brazed with a brass alloy or welded with a nickel alloy filler metal. If you are going to build lots of heat I would use Ni-rod, a high nickel alloy stick electrode.

RENR 11-17-2006 10:16 PM

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clean the cast up real good. make sure the mating surfaces are near perfect w/o gaps. should be fine.

HMTguy 11-17-2006 10:32 PM

Re: Welding mild steel to cast
 
If you're reeeeeeeeeal lucky, it might turn out like this

http://img25.echo.cx/img25/5954/dp18kw.jpg

mike94se 11-17-2006 10:51 PM

Re: Welding mild steel to cast
 

Originally Posted by jagojon3
If you're reeeeeeeeeal lucky, it might turn out like this

http://img25.echo.cx/img25/5954/dp18kw.jpg

HERPES! :D


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