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Old 07-15-2006, 09:59 PM
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i say engloid should come to the all member meet whenever it goes down. I want him to autograph my welder :P
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Old 07-15-2006, 11:25 PM
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People should also consider the cost of making said manifolds... its not just your time beeing factored in on this... what about the materials, pipes, flanges, bolts, etc... and what about the gas for the welder, mig wire, tig rods, the blades for cutting, sanding discs, wire wheels for polishing, and not to mention the electricity used to run all these fancy tools needed , when you really think about it a out of a 200$ log manifold after shipping your really only making about 100$

becuase with the rising energy cost, the price of metals has gone up...
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Old 07-15-2006, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Engloid
Think there's more profit in the production of a Honda or a Ferarri? Yeah, and notice who advertises more?
Ferrari probably makes more profit per unit, but Honda definitely makes more profit overall. Mass producing a "cheap" manifold can be just as profitable, think of Mr. SSauto
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Old 07-16-2006, 03:33 AM
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Aren't full-race manifolds made by robotic tigs anyways?

So then they don't even really employ welders, they just employ people that run the machine that does the welding.

Excuse the ---- out of me, but I didn't know everybody on HMT was a rich little ---- that can afford full race this and that.
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Old 07-16-2006, 03:39 AM
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full race geoff is gay i heard
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Post of the year.
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Old 07-16-2006, 07:56 AM
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The full race ones are welded on the runners by robotic tig.The collectors are welded on by hand.
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Old 07-16-2006, 07:19 PM
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This post was brought up due to he wants all the kids to stop sellin log manifolds for 150 bucks
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Old 07-16-2006, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by chris
This post was brought up due to he wants all the kids to stop sellin log manifolds for 150 bucks
...and for people to realize that you will buy nothing but a piece of ---- for that much. The guys that sell so cheap don't seem to understand that by selling a piece of ----, at any price, can easily ruin their reputation and future sales.

But, I guess it's a two-fold thing.. dumbasses buy cheap and dumbasses sell cheap.

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The full race ones are welded on the runners by robotic tig.The collectors are welded on by hand.
That's nothing but urban legend. Why has nobody seen this robot? If you had a $150k+ welding setup, wouldn't you want to show it off, as a means of increasing your advertising strategies?

Originally Posted by N1ghtM0nkey
Excuse the ---- out of me, but I didn't know everybody on HMT was a rich little ---- that can afford full race this and that.
If you spend your money on every piece of ---- that's out there, every time you save up $150, how do you think you'll ever have anything nice? ...or do you? It's your money, your call. Save up for something nice if you want, but if you buy a cheap POS, don't expect it to be really nice, and don't bash the seller for making something that wasn't top notch work.

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Ferrari probably makes more profit per unit, but Honda definitely makes more profit overall. Mass producing a "cheap" manifold can be just as profitable, think of Mr. SSauto
I don't think anybody here would consider themselves a "mass production" company.

Originally Posted by weiRtech
engloid, you need to come and visit some time. you must make good money at what you do because i could very easily see you being very successful on your own. why haven't you already done this or am i mistaken? i would really like for us to meet one day. if you are ever up this way some time you will have to let me know.
I don't forsee any trips to Canada anytime soon. I hear everybody up there's just a bunch of eh-holes anyway. hehe.. I may be going to Chicago in September for the IMTS show though.
I did work at home for a little bit, but I don't like the stress. I'd rather punch a clock every evening and be done with work...instead of having stuff looming over my head all the time. Of course it's a relative thing though. If I could make twice the money, for the same effort at home, I'd be all over it...but that's not the case.

Originally Posted by Toysrme
Engloid if it bothers you this damn much, why don't you ....
It doesn't really bother ME, cause I don't have the problem buying stuff here...but it seems that many do. I'm just trying to give some insight to those that think that one seller is the "magic pill" that has a great product at a cheap price...and why it's not really gonna happen. In other words, I think the average buyer doesn't understand the difficulties of selling, and therefore they expect something for next to nothing.

I'm also hoping to influence those that want to start selling to take the time to get good at it before getting moneyhungry and damaging their reputation with poor work.

Originally Posted by slappynuts
I have done 4 in a day BTW.This is if they are all the same and I only have to set up machines once.
I'm sure you didn't make top quality stuff in that timeframe also.


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Old 07-16-2006, 08:49 PM
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4 log manifolds in a day with the equipment I have is slacking.
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