Pipe work I did over the Summer
12-30-2008, 06:02 AM
#25
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Re: Pipe work I did over the Summer
Originally Posted by turbob16hatch
yeah can someone take a picture of there hand holding the torch.
I feel as if i'm retarded holding the torch the way i do to get the meaving motion.
I feel as if i'm retarded holding the torch the way i do to get the meaving motion.
vid
12-30-2008, 06:11 AM
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Re: Pipe work I did over the Summer
I think my cup has alot to do with my struggle to learn this technique.
I'm using a #8 med. gas lense cup on a size 17 torch.
i think switching to a lense with a larger outer diamiter would help.
great vid btw
I'm using a #8 med. gas lense cup on a size 17 torch.
i think switching to a lense with a larger outer diamiter would help.
great vid btw
12-30-2008, 01:23 PM
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Re: Pipe work I did over the Summer
VS that video.
90% of the time I use the same ginormous gloves I do for stick flux & mig. No need to feel the rod at all, you know its there. lmao (It's like seeing newbs watch their hands when they drum, wtf buddy you know the ---- is under the stick...)
thats some giant ------- stick out lol
never heard of doing it on a jar - ya glass is slick
speaking of glass being slick, new cups glide like buttah, used cups dont. its can be something to think about till you know what you're doing and it's not a problem.
i do accuse myself of holding the torch like that (his first position), but only for SHORT WELDS. Torches get too MOTHER ------- HOT to hold that high up. idc if it's a giant air-cooled torch or water cooled, it's too hot.
Made that with the CP for some people on here last year sometime.
That last way to do it is the nog's knee's if you have to do good welding all day, but it can be a bitch if you're using one of the baseball bat air cooled torches. you get use to it tho. either way your wrist hurts like hell after awhile.
90% of the time I use the same ginormous gloves I do for stick flux & mig. No need to feel the rod at all, you know its there. lmao (It's like seeing newbs watch their hands when they drum, wtf buddy you know the ---- is under the stick...)
thats some giant ------- stick out lol
never heard of doing it on a jar - ya glass is slick
speaking of glass being slick, new cups glide like buttah, used cups dont. its can be something to think about till you know what you're doing and it's not a problem.
i do accuse myself of holding the torch like that (his first position), but only for SHORT WELDS. Torches get too MOTHER ------- HOT to hold that high up. idc if it's a giant air-cooled torch or water cooled, it's too hot.
Made that with the CP for some people on here last year sometime.
That last way to do it is the nog's knee's if you have to do good welding all day, but it can be a bitch if you're using one of the baseball bat air cooled torches. you get use to it tho. either way your wrist hurts like hell after awhile.
12-30-2008, 02:36 PM
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Re: Pipe work I did over the Summer
i should explain.
holding the torch like you would think is normal (by the main grip, like a pen or batt) puts you FAR off-axis on where you want it to rotate. what you gain in fine motor control from your fingers you loose by having to swing your entire limb somewhat to stave off carpel tunnel syndrome after afew minutes of starting.
doing it with a web grip you loose alittle fine motor control AFA the torch advancing (until you get it down pat) but gain in having a relatively easy grip to get consistant and non-tiring method of walking the cup.
If im dipping I use a normal grip far down enough for my hand to not get hot. (No weaving when dipping). If I preffer a web grip (or whatever you want to call it) to a normal grip. Normal grips just get too tiring for me to do professionally and as accurate as you would think some welding is, understand you're only human - there will be flaws of some level. And the more you weld that same damn thing over & over the more you sleep through it. I don't tig weld well left handed. my left hand is dumb for anything but drumming.(and that's getting weak the more years go by) But in some easy dipping positions I can dip left handed passably just from having seen and done the same type of weld 30 gabillion times.
Still kills be seeing guys able to do restricted 6G root passes without changing position. Ring half way right handed, then switch hands for the other way.
holding the torch like you would think is normal (by the main grip, like a pen or batt) puts you FAR off-axis on where you want it to rotate. what you gain in fine motor control from your fingers you loose by having to swing your entire limb somewhat to stave off carpel tunnel syndrome after afew minutes of starting.
doing it with a web grip you loose alittle fine motor control AFA the torch advancing (until you get it down pat) but gain in having a relatively easy grip to get consistant and non-tiring method of walking the cup.
If im dipping I use a normal grip far down enough for my hand to not get hot. (No weaving when dipping). If I preffer a web grip (or whatever you want to call it) to a normal grip. Normal grips just get too tiring for me to do professionally and as accurate as you would think some welding is, understand you're only human - there will be flaws of some level. And the more you weld that same damn thing over & over the more you sleep through it. I don't tig weld well left handed. my left hand is dumb for anything but drumming.(and that's getting weak the more years go by) But in some easy dipping positions I can dip left handed passably just from having seen and done the same type of weld 30 gabillion times.
Still kills be seeing guys able to do restricted 6G root passes without changing position. Ring half way right handed, then switch hands for the other way.
