Pipe work I did over the Summer
10-13-2008, 11:14 PM
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Re: Pipe work I did over the Summer
thanks guys.
yeah and a half lol.
wier its really about 50% practical experiance and 50% book knowledge. Unlike what some people "Fabricator CoreyR" thinks. You can watch weld puddles all god damned ------- day, but if you don't have the why's what's if's then's all sorted out.... Regardless your ---- will suck. you ought to have enough knowlege and training to pass 100% of your welds under any conditions, even if that requires fixing mistakes. And if you don't know, easily know where to get the information you need.
God thanks but my stick is terrible. Im really alright, but I can't give you an open root weld with proper penitration and reinforcement for my life. maybe two inches out of three then i loose it for whatever reason... One of of three open root on pipe. Sigh...
It's okay tho. Im certified to root tig and cap 7018's anyways, see that alot more than 6010/11-7018 now adays anyways LoL!
Ill flat out tell you a good welding teacher can get you 95% of the general NEED to know in a semister. Alot of it is repetative. Some of it is not. Could I make good tig welds before & walk the cup? Sure, was it better after, god yes. I could use any size filler i wanted, so many tips and tricks. learning to tie welds in so good that god damned CWI's can't visually tell where a weld starts and stops with the aie of dye penatrant... I was PROUD that day. He couldn't see it, neither could one of his visiting CWI friends. list of things i learned, needed to know, or got massively better in grew quickly. Awesome teacher tho.
Engloid probably made 60-70K+ welding. Note last I remember he's not a welder anymore so much as like a shop manager / shop trainer / head hauncho welder. So its likely way higher than that.
In a year and a half I started per-diem afternoon work on big flux-core on big cast iron pipe with little trianing for $75 a day, about 5 hours, ($15/h ish). The job with the chairs I wound up head welder & middle management was making $17/h for welding as a temp employee and made $24/h once when I was the head welder, and made another $19/h ontop of the 24/h the couple weeks I got to be middle management too. And that' 10h/day got long once it piled on tho. thats just for basic industrial spray transfer MIG.
Going rate for a knowledgeable, certable, experianced tig welder down here is around 20-24/h and goes up signifigantly depending on what & where you're welding. almost took a two year, $40/h job tig welding piping in six ships being built in nawleans with my friend last spring. I hate nawleans tho so... out of the question for me.
The per-diem pipe stuff up there... Wound up making a flat rate $700 between the two of us, we generally worked a solid, bearly breaking 9-10 hours a day. Wound up about $30+/h for me and my partner for maybe two and a half three weeks. And that's maybe... 50-65% of what we were WORTH getting paid on that job. We simply wanted the job that badly & needed the experiance on the hire out sheets.
yeah and a half lol.
wier its really about 50% practical experiance and 50% book knowledge. Unlike what some people "Fabricator CoreyR" thinks. You can watch weld puddles all god damned ------- day, but if you don't have the why's what's if's then's all sorted out.... Regardless your ---- will suck. you ought to have enough knowlege and training to pass 100% of your welds under any conditions, even if that requires fixing mistakes. And if you don't know, easily know where to get the information you need.
God thanks but my stick is terrible. Im really alright, but I can't give you an open root weld with proper penitration and reinforcement for my life. maybe two inches out of three then i loose it for whatever reason... One of of three open root on pipe. Sigh...
It's okay tho. Im certified to root tig and cap 7018's anyways, see that alot more than 6010/11-7018 now adays anyways LoL!
Ill flat out tell you a good welding teacher can get you 95% of the general NEED to know in a semister. Alot of it is repetative. Some of it is not. Could I make good tig welds before & walk the cup? Sure, was it better after, god yes. I could use any size filler i wanted, so many tips and tricks. learning to tie welds in so good that god damned CWI's can't visually tell where a weld starts and stops with the aie of dye penatrant... I was PROUD that day. He couldn't see it, neither could one of his visiting CWI friends. list of things i learned, needed to know, or got massively better in grew quickly. Awesome teacher tho.
Engloid probably made 60-70K+ welding. Note last I remember he's not a welder anymore so much as like a shop manager / shop trainer / head hauncho welder. So its likely way higher than that.
In a year and a half I started per-diem afternoon work on big flux-core on big cast iron pipe with little trianing for $75 a day, about 5 hours, ($15/h ish). The job with the chairs I wound up head welder & middle management was making $17/h for welding as a temp employee and made $24/h once when I was the head welder, and made another $19/h ontop of the 24/h the couple weeks I got to be middle management too. And that' 10h/day got long once it piled on tho. thats just for basic industrial spray transfer MIG.
Going rate for a knowledgeable, certable, experianced tig welder down here is around 20-24/h and goes up signifigantly depending on what & where you're welding. almost took a two year, $40/h job tig welding piping in six ships being built in nawleans with my friend last spring. I hate nawleans tho so... out of the question for me.
The per-diem pipe stuff up there... Wound up making a flat rate $700 between the two of us, we generally worked a solid, bearly breaking 9-10 hours a day. Wound up about $30+/h for me and my partner for maybe two and a half three weeks. And that's maybe... 50-65% of what we were WORTH getting paid on that job. We simply wanted the job that badly & needed the experiance on the hire out sheets.
10-14-2008, 05:13 AM
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Re: Pipe work I did over the Summer
Originally Posted by Toysrme
thanks guys.
yeah and a half lol.
wier its really about 50% practical experiance and 50% book knowledge.
yeah and a half lol.
wier its really about 50% practical experiance and 50% book knowledge.
Welding rocks, everytime I chip the slak away and it comes of easy I know there must be a nice weld underneat and every nice weld makes me happy
funny ----
10-14-2008, 12:40 PM
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Re: Pipe work I did over the Summer
Speedglas SL, backup is a jackson shadow with a set of gold lenses.
The stick was an old idealarc, didn't feel very good. it ran 10/11's fine but sucked at 18s. The MP's we had back at school rocked ***** at mig/flux and stick. They were very nice.
The stick was an old idealarc, didn't feel very good. it ran 10/11's fine but sucked at 18s. The MP's we had back at school rocked ***** at mig/flux and stick. They were very nice.
10-16-2008, 07:25 PM
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Re: Pipe work I did over the Summer
Thanks, that's because robots can't really adjust and correct on the fly, and that's assuming they're set right in the first place lol
smaw big straight runs for the win tho lol
smaw big straight runs for the win tho lol
