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LongCarv 02-16-2009 05:53 PM

Made a ramhorn - now afraid of metal pieces inside
 
A friend of mine made me an equal length ramhorn manifold. It's welded with mig (only co2).

The problem is that some of the welds went trough, so there might be some metal pieces inside the manifold that could damage my turbo and maybe also my engine? :-\ :-\

What should I do now? - I can't just get inside and polish all metal pieces and welds >:(
maybe should I run the engine with this manifold without turbo, so it cleans itself when it reaches operating temperature?

I really don't know what to do :-[

Partially welded manifold:
http://www.shrani.si/t/P/jv/3zo5bz8U/img2601.jpg
Clicl to enlarge
http://www.shrani.si/t/17/kc/3TfXRJsF/img2602.jpg

nascarfan 02-16-2009 06:11 PM

Re: Made a ramhorn - now afraid of metal pieces inside
 
blow it out with an air hose then put it on

CXyD 02-16-2009 06:19 PM

Re: Made a ramhorn - now afraid of metal pieces inside
 

Originally Posted by civiceggturbo
blow it out with an air hose then put it on

+1 unless you large chunks of metal that is blocking exhaust flow then do not worry about it.

btw nice looking mani. ;D

Birdley42008 02-16-2009 06:29 PM

Re: Made a ramhorn - now afraid of metal pieces inside
 
decent mani, should have used a tig tho.

TorganFM 02-16-2009 07:28 PM

Re: Made a ramhorn - now afraid of metal pieces inside
 

Originally Posted by Birdley42008
decent mani, should have used a tig tho.

why?

LongCarv 02-16-2009 07:43 PM

Re: Made a ramhorn - now afraid of metal pieces inside
 
Thx for the compliments ;) I'm just worried that there are some metal pieces left inside the manifold that could come off while operating at high temperature=> destroying my turbo :-\ Should I clean the inside somehow?

vtec_lude 02-16-2009 08:11 PM

Re: Made a ramhorn - now afraid of metal pieces inside
 
I'm not sure how that's gonna hold up. It looks to me like what's been welded so far is just using a series of tacks and what give much strength at all.

Toysrme 02-16-2009 08:16 PM

Re: Made a ramhorn - now afraid of metal pieces inside
 
your friend needs to learn how to weld beads and not make 5,000 tack welds.

Smith-02 02-17-2009 12:19 AM

Re: Made a ramhorn - now afraid of metal pieces inside
 
i ---- around sometimes to make fun of ssauto and make welds like that on non-supporting things.

my fluxcore > your friend

Birdley42008 02-17-2009 12:28 AM

Re: Made a ramhorn - now afraid of metal pieces inside
 

Originally Posted by danwjmu
why?

cleaner

reddevil 02-17-2009 02:24 AM

Re: Made a ramhorn - now afraid of metal pieces inside
 
I often worry the same....

So I take a wooden mallet and beat the ---- out of the manifold. Stuff DOES fall out.

WTF 02-17-2009 03:35 AM

Re: Made a ramhorn - now afraid of metal pieces inside
 
TOILET SNAKE

traff1c 02-21-2009 03:06 AM

Re: Made a ramhorn - now afraid of metal pieces inside
 

Originally Posted by reddevil
So I take a wooden mallet and beat the ---- out of the manifold. Stuff DOES fall out.

this actually does work. i do it sometimes to get little beads that fell in and got stuck out.

clwtwizted 02-22-2009 04:19 PM

Re: Made a ramhorn - now afraid of metal pieces inside
 
Sand blast it out.

rosario4124 02-23-2009 06:12 PM

Re: Made a ramhorn - now afraid of metal pieces inside
 
nice mani

md95ej1 02-24-2009 12:12 AM

Re: Made a ramhorn - now afraid of metal pieces inside
 
take it to a car wash and blast it

levelzero 02-24-2009 05:17 AM

Re: Made a ramhorn - now afraid of metal pieces inside
 
You can get a flexable adapter for a die grinder and feed it through the runners, sort of like a tiolet snake. A 60 grit flat wheel and go to town.

LongCarv 02-24-2009 08:58 AM

Re: Made a ramhorn - now afraid of metal pieces inside
 

Originally Posted by levelzero
You can get a flexable adapter for a die grinder and feed it through the runners, sort of like a tiolet snake. A 60 grit flat wheel and go to town.

This would be my idea!

The mani is now welded and corrected with tig welder, just to be safe + is getting the wastegate port welded and flanges are being resurfaced. Pics coming soon.
Then I will clean the inside and it should be done :6

TurboGuy 02-28-2009 11:51 PM

Re: Made a ramhorn - now afraid of metal pieces inside
 
Should have removed the excess as you went along welding the pieces together. Now, I think the snake and mallet ideas would be your best option. If it's still there after that, I doubt it will come loose.

t_cel_t 03-01-2009 10:03 AM

Re: Made a ramhorn - now afraid of metal pieces inside
 
i know it aint cheap but you could take it to a place that does extrude honing

imburne 03-01-2009 10:13 AM

Re: Made a ramhorn - now afraid of metal pieces inside
 
hose the ------- thing down you -----. I notched my block in car with the crank still in it. Brass balls baby

HiProfile 03-02-2009 05:21 PM

Re: Made a ramhorn - now afraid of metal pieces inside
 
Get a jank-ass CDM turbo, boost that ---- to 1bar with a few heat cycles, then you'll be good with the real turbo. Or find a place that does ghetto extrude-honing for cheap.

FYI tack welding for the entire bead on a MIG is complete fail. If you beat is with so much as a wet paper bag it might crack. The basemetal doesn't get hot enough, and you have less penetration than an asian dick in a black -----. If your friend wants that psudo-TIG look, tell him to hold the trigger steady, but just move the stinger in spurts. Still not as good as a normal weld, but FAR better than a million tacks.

mosheen 03-03-2009 07:11 PM

Re: Made a ramhorn - now afraid of metal pieces inside
 
I wonder if you could run a brass bottle brush through it with a drill.

LongCarv 03-08-2009 05:23 PM

solution
 
I read here http://autospeed.com/cms/A_2604/arti...popularArticle
that caustic soda (NaOH) can be used to clean inside the manifold!? Anyone ever tried this?

Toysrme 03-28-2009 04:19 AM

dont use a brass brush use stainless.
1) brass will be eaten alive by the pipe
2) it wont last long
3) all that brass being worn is deposited on the steel
What happens is you waste alot of money for ensuring that if you ever get that spot hot enough to weld you'll have inclusions in the weld

It would have been stronger to braze it together with bronze filler rods.



i wouldn't invite any more corrosion into a manifold that it will see in service.

mosheen 03-28-2009 06:27 PM

Good point. I was thinking more about using the bottle brush than the material used.

gtokidd 04-06-2009 10:37 PM

idk but it look badass!

amg 04-08-2009 12:32 PM

You could always try a pressure washer to clean it out.

mike oxlong 04-10-2009 01:46 AM

pixs of it installed????

90crxdx 04-11-2009 05:12 PM

nice work, wish i could make one...

LongCarv 04-20-2009 04:33 PM

installed:-D
 
Installed with my plastic welded rad: (mani is sand blasted&painted)
http://www.shrani.si/t/2n/GH/1cdj0vAf/inst.jpg
Car pulls like hell with a T3/T4 turbo, 3" exhaust...

flosho 04-20-2009 10:19 PM

Nice, no damaged turbo, yet?

LongCarv 04-21-2009 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by flosho (Post 1266601)
Nice, no damaged turbo, yet?

nope. Still pulling like a champ :-D

rza 04-21-2009 04:04 PM

i was in the same boat as you and i used the flex shaft on a dremel with a grinding wheel and most all of it came out in seconds but there is still stuff i cant get to so ---- it.

twack 04-22-2009 01:29 AM

looks real good i hope it holds up. try not to run a real lean setup, keep temps down

iownahatchback 04-22-2009 03:31 AM

i like it cuz it looks cheap to make

HONDAaSIf 04-26-2009 11:05 PM

blow it out with a compressor?

hyper16johnny 06-01-2009 06:28 PM

nice

turbo750 06-03-2009 08:42 PM

get a bottle cleaner and shove it thru

mikealike 06-05-2009 01:59 PM

where did you ge the pipe to make the mani?


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