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t_cel_t 03-12-2008 10:22 AM

Re: Chinese TIG welder owners (especially Smiley's) I need your help~!
 
dude this is a ac/dc and has a plasma cutter

Originally Posted by t_cel_t
does anyone have one of these?
seem like a good deal for HF start, AC/DC output 200amp, pulser controls and custom waveform
i might have to get one
http://www.rilandusa.com/tig200wse.jpg
http://www.rilandusa.com/tig200wsepanel1.jpg


SpankedYA! 03-12-2008 02:41 PM

Re: Chinese TIG welder owners (especially Smiley's) I need your help~!
 
I have had my smiley for 2 years and have used it on TIG and plamsa back and forth. It still works.

Jorsher 03-14-2008 02:05 PM

Re: Chinese TIG welder owners (especially Smiley's) I need your help~!
 
Nice, never realised the smileys were so damn cheap.

So I read the comment that they do the job, although not as well as high dollar welders...Is it POSSIBLE to make just as good of welds (obviously would be more difficult) with a smiley?

I've never welded and don't know ---- about it, but I'm reading around so hopefully this summer I'll be able to pick one up to play with.

t_cel_t 03-14-2008 02:13 PM

Re: Chinese TIG welder owners (especially Smiley's) I need your help~!
 
if you guys want to learn you should take a class at a community college, i took a 1 semester class that met 2 times a week for 3 hours 6-9pm and it cost me like $230. the metal was included, the only thing i had to buy was gloves ($7) and a few tungstons($3 a pop). i got to weld mild, stainless, aluminum, copper, titanium, brass. got to use a plasma, air carbon arc, cutting torch, bandsaw, break, and other ill ----.

seerex 03-14-2008 05:46 PM

Re: Chinese TIG welder owners (especially Smiley's) I need your help~!
 
I now this is a bit of a noob question but what is better a Hf tig or the smiley tig, there both the same price?
BTW I already have the Hf tig and just want to know if upgrading to the smiley would be worth it. Thanks

SpankedYA! 03-14-2008 06:47 PM

Re: Chinese TIG welder owners (especially Smiley's) I need your help~!
 
The harbor freight is scratch start. That sucks.

seerex 03-14-2008 06:49 PM

Re: Chinese TIG welder owners (especially Smiley's) I need your help~!
 

Originally Posted by CSaddict
The harbor freight is scratch start. That sucks.

That's true but is there any advantage to switching to the smiley tig?

Toysrme 03-14-2008 08:36 PM

Re: Chinese TIG welder owners (especially Smiley's) I need your help~!
 
The smiley's are normally the old generation of riland clones. Buy the real riland ones so you actually have good service and a better product.
The quality is better, they have continuous HF, they can plasma cut, they have much higher duty cycles, they have alot more power avalible, and depending how much you spend they can be 110v/220v, and / or have alot more features beyond that.

0b00st0 03-16-2008 03:30 AM

Re: Chinese TIG welder owners (especially Smiley's) I need your help~!
 

I have one of those AC/DC Plasma China welders. It ------- works great. Although the plasma only cuts semi good. 60A Miller is 10x better.

Toysrme is right about the spark gap. Gotta adjust it. I think a lot of these machines go out simply because no one checks the gap.

The HF start on it is so much better than on my Dynasty 200DX. Even adjusted perfectly within miller's specs, it will sometimes give me ---- and not want to start right away. The china one, instantly every time and from far away too.

No difference in weld quality on DC, but the Dynasty in AC mode just plain kicks ass. Adjustable frequency is nice for fine tuning your welds.



One thing though is the pedal that comes with it blows. Broke the first week. The miller pedal is a champ. Takes a lot of abuse and works perfectly.





Scott-EP 03-16-2008 08:42 AM

Re: Chinese TIG welder owners (especially Smiley's) I need your help~!
 
are there any specs on the spark gap in the manual. if not where can you find it. i am going to buy one of the CDM welders soon and figured i would check the gap right out of the box


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