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best hotrex welds to date! welds= SEX , haters blow dick
well went up to joshs' today to get my dump tube,charge piping and intercooler welded. after seeing the quality of the workmanship first hand, i'll soon be rockin cc-fab ramhorn,and dp, not to mention some other project one off pieces in the works so stay tuned bitches :-*
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Re: best hotrex welds to date! welds= SEX , haters blow dick
Originally Posted by spazz0nater
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not to knock on you, but do we need ANOTHER hotrex weld post? :l i've seen more welds of his than anywhere else.... |
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Originally Posted by spazz0nater
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not at all, im just very happy with the work. just giving credit where credit is due(as i would do with anyone)
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WTF hotrex u didnt flux core the aluminum ??? wish i could lay some beads like that :S
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lol flux core? nah. i haven't cleaned them up and polished the welds to match the rest of the intercooler, they are in raw form
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yup, looking forward to the ramhorn and dp and seeing what we do on the dyno with jeff evans.
setup is top notch. woot. |
Re: best hotrex welds to date! welds= SEX , haters blow dick
Originally Posted by Dr.Boost
Bah, you're still new. Stick around for a while and you'll realize this is all part of advertising 101 when you're not allowed to sell on a website, you figure out ways to advertise without actually advertising. ;) This also leads to threads like this: http://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1642471 when the advertising has done a little too well. :S
But awsome welds and aswsome site |
Re: best hotrex welds to date! welds= SEX , haters blow dick
Why would u want the dumptube just fused? that doesnt make it any stronger.
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because its a dumptube. fused = 3/4 penetration. unless your backpurging full penetration hinders flow.
dont hate mike, just say the colors are pretty, which also are non existant in the bullshit you pass as acceptable manifolds and such. ::) and for more mony i might add. say goodnight in about a month and a half. keep selling those ------ bed linens on ebay. its about all you can do right these days. |
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Fusing dumptubes and downpipes and things like that is a terrible idea. The main reason is the heat. If you want to fuse charge pipes, thats an entirely different story as the pressure is low as is the heat. Fusing a dump tube will result in failure.
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this was Josh posting under my name.. just so you know
you mut be kidding me. ill put 300 dollars on that dumptube. dare to match me? that dumptube will see very little heat. even if it saw exhaust flow 100 percent fo the time it would not fail. fusing is not a poor idea. like i said 3/4 to full penetration is had and the result i clean and strong. id say fusing charge pipes is a worse idea. they see much more stress than a dumptube. like previously posted, haters can blow dick. you two should blow eachother |
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wow i dont call him nasty noel for nuthin.
ill make a short vid of me beating the ---- out of a piece of "fused" pipe youll all eat your hating words. haha |
Re: best hotrex welds to date! welds= SEX , haters blow dick
Hotrex, you're credibility is shot. You really don't have much of a clue. You just slap stuff together and say its "mint". The sheer fact you think its okay, would make me think the exact opposite.
Fusing material together like that is an okay method with low pressure/temperature applications. An example of which would be something like duct work for non hazardous fumes. Dumptubes are low pressure, but not low temperature. A decent beating will get the dump tube well over 700*F. Then the actual cooling down from that 700* to the temp in the engine bay will do its damamge. The material will begin to expand and fatigue. As the material expands, it will be weakest at that point because you didn't add filler rod and on some level the thickness of the material in that fraction of an inch will be significantly less than anywhere else on the material. Again, fusing material on an application that sees that kind of heat is a bad idea. If you did it with charge pipes and pressure tested afterwards, I would have no problem believing things would be fine. On a dumptube, I could see it easily failing. As for crx2fast. You're wrong. Heat wears on material a hell of a lot more than 100-200* air and sub 40psi. The sheer fact that FMIC piping has couplers which allow the tubing to move back and forth with little to no stress is the reason why you can fuse the material and have minimal problems. The main concern with fusing charge piping would be pin holes causing pressure leaks. As long as you are sure the piping can hold pressure, you should be good to go. Would I suggest fusing charge pipes on higher pressure applications? No so much due to the fact if it did fail because you decided to fuse, it would be pretty ridiculous. I don't see any reason not to add filler rod when doing the welding regardless, but if you wanted a very smooth finish, fusing should work fine. As for betting, I'm not betting on something I have little to no control over. It could crack 7 times and I would never hear about it. How do you guys know its getting 75% penetration? Did you guys buy a welding xray? Is this more "lets throw out random numbers to make it look like what we are doing is okay"? Face it, hotrex has a shitty track record. He needs to be told out right what he is doing is fucked up. He was told with block filling, resulted in his sleeves failing. Instead he insisted it was mint and other people on various web boards followed his lead. He was told when welding his turbo manifolds, when he would only do a single pass of 1/16" filler on .109" material. A number of his manifolds failed and cracked. He was told when he started this mess of a business. He ended up having customers waiting months when he claimed a week. Fact is, hotrex has a shittier learning curve than me. Its better to let him know outright what should or should not be done rather than having his shitty learning curve effect others who paid for his services. |
Re: best hotrex welds to date! welds= SEX , haters blow dick
Originally Posted by Inquisition
Hotrex, you're credibility is shot. You really don't have much of a clue. You just slap stuff together and say its "mint". The sheer fact you think its okay, would make me think the exact opposite.
Fusing material together like that is an okay method with low pressure/temperature applications. An example of which would be something like duct work for non hazardous fumes. Dumptubes are low pressure, but not low temperature. A decent beating will get the dump tube well over 700*F. Then the actual cooling down from that 700* to the temp in the engine bay will do its damamge. The material will begin to expand and fatigue. As the material expands, it will be weakest at that point because you didn't add filler rod and on some level the thickness of the material in that fraction of an inch will be significantly less than anywhere else on the material. Again, fusing material on an application that sees that kind of heat is a bad idea. If you did it with charge pipes and pressure tested afterwards, I would have no problem believing things would be fine. On a dumptube, I could see it easily failing. As for crx2fast. You're wrong. Heat wears on material a hell of a lot more than 100-200* air and sub 40psi. The sheer fact that FMIC piping has couplers which allow the tubing to move back and forth with little to no stress is the reason why you can fuse the material and have minimal problems. The main concern with fusing charge piping would be pin holes causing pressure leaks. As long as you are sure the piping can hold pressure, you should be good to go. Would I suggest fusing charge pipes on higher pressure applications? No so much due to the fact if it did fail because you decided to fuse, it would be pretty ridiculous. I don't see any reason not to add filler rod when doing the welding regardless, but if you wanted a very smooth finish, fusing should work fine. As for betting, I'm not betting on something I have little to no control over. It could crack 7 times and I would never hear about it. How do you guys know its getting 75% penetration? Did you guys buy a welding xray? Is this more "lets throw out random numbers to make it look like what we are doing is okay"? Face it, hotrex has a shitty track record. He needs to be told out right what he is doing is fucked up. He was told with block filling, resulted in his sleeves failing. Instead he insisted it was mint and other people on various web boards followed his lead. He was told when welding his turbo manifolds, when he would only do a single pass of 1/16" filler on .109" material. A number of his manifolds failed and cracked. He was told when he started this mess of a business. He ended up having customers waiting months when he claimed a week. Fact is, hotrex has a shittier learning curve than me. Its better to let him know outright what should or should not be done rather than having his shitty learning curve effect others who paid for his services. |
Re: best hotrex welds to date! welds= SEX , haters blow dick
Originally Posted by 91efate
quit blabbin in my thread you incompetent dick snot you're not even worth explaining it to; you obviously don't have a clue. i would not put anything on my car that i don't think is going to last. if you look at the above pictures of the inside of the shot you'll see the dumptube has damn near 99% penetration, the tube is 0.65 thick quality ss.
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Originally Posted by 91efate
quit blabbin in my thread you incompetent dick snot you're not even worth explaining it to; you obviously don't have a clue. i would not put anything on my car that i don't think is going to last. if you look at the above pictures of the inside of the shot you'll see the dumptube has damn near 99% penetration, the tube is 0.65 thick quality ss.
PS: I don't give a ---- if hotrex has a sucessful business. Doesn't bother me in the least. What bothers me is his negligance when it comes to his customers. He brushes everything off as "its mint" and claims to know better. Then the process/parts fail, and their fucked. Its not the right thing to do. |
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Originally Posted by Inquisition
PS: I don't give a ---- if hotrex has a sucessful business.
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guys we all need to remember this is HMT! yes our ---- has been looking nicer lately, but if it doesn't break and look like ---- then what fun is it?
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Re: best hotrex welds to date! welds= SEX , haters blow dick
Originally Posted by Inquisition
The welds obviously weren't backpurged so 99% penetration = sugaring. There was no sugaring, so that means there was less than 99% penetration. Also the welds are undercut(which you'd expect with a fusion weld). Because there is a slight gap between the two pieces, and you are not adding any material(ie filler rod) is physically impossible to get 100% penetration. 100% penetration would mean that since its 16 gauge material, where the weld is, there would be atleast .065" of material. Thats not the case, so its not 100% penetration. Its not 99%. The fact of the matter is, metal expands. Dump tubes have very odd heat cycles due to where they are located. Fusing the material together seems like a bad idea. Adding filler rod would add a lot more insurance to the weld. Fusing the material is increasing the chance of failure quite a bit.
PS: I don't give a ---- if hotrex has a sucessful business. Doesn't bother me in the least. What bothers me is his negligance when it comes to his customers. He brushes everything off as "its mint" and claims to know better. Then the process/parts fail, and their fucked. Its not the right thing to do. |
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Originally Posted by crx2fast
this was Josh posting under my name.. just so you know
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i wouldnt necessarily call those welds sex.
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Re: best hotrex welds to date! welds= SEX , haters blow dick
Originally Posted by Inquisition
The welds obviously weren't backpurged so 99% penetration = sugaring. There was no sugaring, so that means there was less than 99% penetration. Also the welds are undercut(which you'd expect with a fusion weld). Because there is a slight gap between the two pieces, and you are not adding any material(ie filler rod) is physically impossible to get 100% penetration. 100% penetration would mean that since its 16 gauge material, where the weld is, there would be atleast .065" of material. Thats not the case, so its not 100% penetration. Its not 99%. The fact of the matter is, metal expands. Dump tubes have very odd heat cycles due to where they are located. Fusing the material together seems like a bad idea. Adding filler rod would add a lot more insurance to the weld. Fusing the material is increasing the chance of failure quite a bit.
PS: I don't give a ---- if hotrex has a sucessful business. Doesn't bother me in the least. What bothers me is his negligance when it comes to his customers. He brushes everything off as "its mint" and claims to know better. Then the process/parts fail, and their fucked. Its not the right thing to do. |
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Mike, if you thought the initial scam was bad for your business ::), wait for the comeback. ROFL. In the end, people will get what they deserve. I've got all 5 of my bank accounts on it. ;)
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Re: best hotrex welds to date! welds= SEX , haters blow dick
Originally Posted by BoosTedZSix
i wouldnt necessarily call those welds sex.
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Re: best hotrex welds to date! welds= SEX , haters blow dick
I don't think there is really anything wrong with fusion welding if it's done right. RMF fusion welds everything.
I'm just a ----- so I use filler. Welds look better. |
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Yup, nice welds. Too bad he aint got customer service worth for ---- :P :4
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Re: best hotrex welds to date! welds= SEX , haters blow dick
Originally Posted by BoosTedZSix
i wouldnt necessarily call those welds sex.
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Re: best hotrex welds to date! welds= SEX , haters blow dick
Originally Posted by Inquisition
Hotrex, you're credibility is shot. You really don't have much of a clue. You just slap stuff together and say its "mint". The sheer fact you think its okay, would make me think the exact opposite.
Fusing material together like that is an okay method with low pressure/temperature applications. An example of which would be something like duct work for non hazardous fumes. Dumptubes are low pressure, but not low temperature. A decent beating will get the dump tube well over 700*F. Then the actual cooling down from that 700* to the temp in the engine bay will do its damamge. The material will begin to expand and fatigue. As the material expands, it will be weakest at that point because you didn't add filler rod and on some level the thickness of the material in that fraction of an inch will be significantly less than anywhere else on the material. Again, fusing material on an application that sees that kind of heat is a bad idea. If you did it with charge pipes and pressure tested afterwards, I would have no problem believing things would be fine. On a dumptube, I could see it easily failing. As for crx2fast. You're wrong. Heat wears on material a hell of a lot more than 100-200* air and sub 40psi. The sheer fact that FMIC piping has couplers which allow the tubing to move back and forth with little to no stress is the reason why you can fuse the material and have minimal problems. The main concern with fusing charge piping would be pin holes causing pressure leaks. As long as you are sure the piping can hold pressure, you should be good to go. Would I suggest fusing charge pipes on higher pressure applications? No so much due to the fact if it did fail because you decided to fuse, it would be pretty ridiculous. I don't see any reason not to add filler rod when doing the welding regardless, but if you wanted a very smooth finish, fusing should work fine. As for betting, I'm not betting on something I have little to no control over. It could crack 7 times and I would never hear about it. How do you guys know its getting 75% penetration? Did you guys buy a welding xray? Is this more "lets throw out random numbers to make it look like what we are doing is okay"? Face it, hotrex has a shitty track record. He needs to be told out right what he is doing is fucked up. He was told with block filling, resulted in his sleeves failing. Instead he insisted it was mint and other people on various web boards followed his lead. He was told when welding his turbo manifolds, when he would only do a single pass of 1/16" filler on .109" material. A number of his manifolds failed and cracked. He was told when he started this mess of a business. He ended up having customers waiting months when he claimed a week. Fact is, hotrex has a shittier learning curve than me. Its better to let him know outright what should or should not be done rather than having his shitty learning curve effect others who paid for his services. |
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damn it those welds are clean, did you wire brush them afer welding or is that just fresly welded.
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Justin, Did you start selling ropes yet? Hotrex is making a sale for you.
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Re: best hotrex welds to date! welds= SEX , haters blow dick
Originally Posted by 91efate
i haven't cleaned them up and polished the welds to match the rest of the intercooler, they are in raw form
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how the hell do you keep them so clean, i know im using a smiley and im at a bit of disadvantage but what can i do.
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Prepping the weld surfaces, proper settings on the welder, nice sharp tungsten, and practice. A good weld is where there's no black burnt marks just some rainbow colors. I assume you're talking about the dumptube. The smiley probably can't do aluminum. I'll post up my aluminum welds when I have time this week. I don't claim to be an expert in welding. Just a hobbiest... with a shop. :P
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THe smiley welds fine. Here is the head flange for the pinks NE car. I welded it with the Smiley.
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Dave, that's a nice plate... Got anymore of those? I'll buy it off you!
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Its the only one I have.
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Originally Posted by CSaddict
Its the only one I have.
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I use the steel plate and have not had a problem.
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