AaronZ34

What an extremely hypocritical post.

Unnecessary? Well turbocharging a car altogether is largely unnecessary. We don't have this hobby out of necessity, but out of desire. Not just that, but a well designed, efficient exhaust is worth the time, effort, and cost. Because weight savings improves every aspect of the car. Braking, handling, acceleration, top speed, gas mileage, ---- even reliability is improved. Also be aware that it cuts weight, without any downside, aside from the cost of doing it. The driver won't adversely notice the change in any way. Let's compare it to removing the A/C system, which will save about the same amoutn of weight. Do people remove the A/C system for the weight savings? I have, on both of my Fieros, so obviously people do. All for a pretty small weight savings, by your word. But what's the side affect? Well I no longer have A/C, which can be a real bitch sometimes. So the chance to save the same amount of weight, without any such side affect, would be a definite attraction to me for sure.

Then, right after you said a normal exhaust system doesn't weigh much, you said you saved 25 lbs by cutting your's off. 25 pounds is a very significant difference. The side affect of that? Your car looks like ----, sounds like ----, and is more illegal. But here he has the chance to save at least 20lbs, probably more if more of the system is re-done, without any of your nasty side affects. Yah, I'd be all ------- over it personally.

Walter

how then or what rods do u use for welding aluminium with ss muffler¿?

AaronZ34

You don't weld the aluminum to the steel, at least you shouldn't. Use some sort of clamp (V-bands are pimp, but expensive).

Walter

i see.... ok.

signorelli21

Are you guys ------- kidding? your talking about redoing your exhaust with Aluminum to save weight? This is HMT, your supposed to use aluminum because its cheaper than stainless and doesn't rust, if you want to save weight run open downpipe and kick your girlfriends fat *** out of your car.

Heres mine, yes its loud and illegal but its ok because I'm not a ------- girl.






oh and it weighs 12.357464^7 pounds ****

zakats

At the risk of drawing you into a debate, I'm not going too deep into a response here... and there I'd thought highly of you before the h-t response I got :/
The cause for the significant weight reduction I noted was the incredibly overweight exhaust setup that was on the car when I acquired it.
fwiw, the side exit I had looked great (don't think I have any pics but it slanted back at a ~45 deg angle and had a matching, parallel to the body, cut tip), sounded awesome for the cheap setup that it was, and was perfectly legal (other than the fact that I didn't have a cat)- I should know, I was/am a state inspector here in Texas.

Captain Bondo

I'm the only one who actually posted an aluminum exhaust, and I mentioned how cheap it was and that I made it from scrap intercooler piping - so suck it.

And it's a ---- of a lot nicer than your exhaust, so why don't you STFU and stop trying to be an e-thug until you have something to actually bring to the discussion?

signorelli21

I disagree, my exhaust is lighter and awesomer than yours *** lips, i was actually targeting the HT discussion of bullshit weight vs sound which is stupid and pointless, but if you want to get all butt hurt then go right ahead.

And I'm not an e-thug, I openly insult peoples stupid decisions in person as well as the internet, so really that makes me an e-------- (i'm not cool enough to be gangsta) and in case you didn't notice you basically just agreed with me dumbass by pointing out that your ---- was scavenged and just happend to save some weight but thats not why you made it with aluminum tube.

by the way, nice exhaust ***.

AaronZ34

Some of us on HMT have the money, and desire, to do things right, and maximize their performance gain, while minimizing their impact on the car's civility. Call it, I don't know, maturity. You're supposed to use aluminum because it doesn't rust, is cheaper than stainless, looks good, saves weight, among other reasons. You don't use it for the one advantage, you use it for the many.

All steel systems are overweight to some extent, especially on a front engine car. Your dramatic weight drop was only due in part to the previous sytem, half of your weight drop was because of your new system being a better design. And aluminum would have cut that weight by even more, significantly too.

It looked great, in your opinion. I've seen very few I liked, and I can almost guarantee your's isn't one of them (But, please do post pics). Again, the sounding awesome is your opinion. I personally don't think a Honda 4cyl can sound good, unless it's silent (Preps flamesuit). As for the legalities, it cetainly is illegal in my state. But legalities aside, that doesn't make the steel system better, just one less advantage of the aluminum.

How can you say your's is lighter, when his uses a FAR lighter material, and you have absolutely no idea how his is designed? As for it being awesomer (What a gem of the English language you are, that's true IQ there folks), how can you say? His probably weighs less, will last longer, and, if it is better designed which isn't hard, will look better, be better for the environment, and be quieter.

Using aluminum is not a stupid decision, it's a very good one, if you can afford it.

signorelli21

Well holy ----, I cannot believe you are actually this serious about this, I guess its what I get for trying to be sarcastic on a forum now littered with people that don't know ----.

First of all, the original post asked if he should use Aluminum rather than steel so he can save weight,( actually he wanted to replace his perfectly fine stock exhaust for aluminum just to save weight) and then of course you and a bunch of other newbtastics came running saying OMG hell yea save teh weight!!!

so, lets analyse that.

16 guage Mild steel weighs around 2lbs per foot, whereas Aluminum weighs about .7lbs per foot, so if you have 10 ft of pipe you would save about 13 pounds using aluminum vs mild steel, then of course you have muffler/catalytic converter/resonator, clamps hangars and their respective bolts and gaskets and flanges, so yea you save some weight, big ------- deal. You could save more weight by removing your spare tire or running half a tank of gas, personally I am redoing all of my exhaust and charge piping with stainless due to its superior strength, etc.

Well mainly because I was being sarcastic in hopes that he would get pissed and respond with funny insults about how stupid and gay my exhaust is, but also because it is, its 4 ft long and consists of a glasspack, flange and 3 ft or so of 16 guage mild steel pipe, so it probably weighs less than 30 lbs, what the ---- do you mean I don;t know how his is designed? he posted pictures of it, and all the rest of the crap your spewing is subjective nonsense, I made my exhaust in about an hour with a flux core welder and an angle grinder so i could finish boosting my car that day, is it the "right" way to have done it?

Yes, because I set an objective and created a pile of ---- that met that objective, being mature, saving weight or having money has nothing to do with it, you should get your car as fast as you can AND THEN worry about trying to cut weight anyway, dropping 30 lbs isn't going to do ---- and thats the whole ------- point sir.