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Innovate LC-1 Wideband sensor kit. comes with all of this...
LC-1 wideband controller
O2 sensor
Weld in o2 bung
A-F R serial cable and accessory plugs
Power Interrupt switch and LED

or should i go with the aem wideband UEGO everything i could find about it?

Does not oscillate AFR reading like narrow band sensors
No laptop required for monitoring!
Bosch sensor included
Accurate to 0.1 AFr
Reads in AFR or Lambda via a switch in back of gauge housing
24 Color-coded LED display lights provide immediate reference to engine’s air/fuel ratio (AFR) or Lambda ratio
Integrated three-digit display reveals AFR or Lambda in real time
User-programmable 0-5v analog output included for use with data loggers and virtually any engine management system
Serial data stream included for output of AFR (RS 232)

just want to tune my car myself not really need to go all out you know but then agin dont want to have up grade right away

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http://www.zeitronix.com/index.html :)

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answer to all your widebands

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thanks for the link

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im happy with mine

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owned mine for 4+ years, still love it

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I had one Zeitronix that was DOA and one that ---- the bed after a week. ---- those things. Ill stick to Innovate and PLX.

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I fried mine in the 1st month when I wired it wrong they replaced it knowing it was my fault, I've upgraded it to the new firmware for $65 and still ticking

the best thing I love about the zt2 is how simple it is to wire , use, read, display, and all the optional sensors.
if you look in my car I have 2 gauges, water and oil pressure, all my other gauges are displayed using the zt2 display. BOOST, EGT, AFR, TPS, MAP, ETC.

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exactly this thing is awsom.. how simple it is to use..

and btw still using the same o2 it came with ? im still using mine

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I've replaced the o2 2 times. I am on the 3rd one now, but it was because I damaged them by having it too close to the intermediate shaft it cut through the harness.

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oh ic cool.. use some zip ties or ghetto wire to keep it bent away from that thing

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I like my LC-1...fast, simple, cheap, and has an awesome transfer rate for datalogging. Plus the replacement o2 sensors are cheaper than AEM's.

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Arrogant fucks (ZT) when you try and talk to them at tradeshows as well...the DSM crowd can have them :y

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I never met them in person, but over the phone they seems very nice.

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I have a uego and I love it, although only having one output did piss me off having to put my narrowband back in after cutting it out. but unlike the lc-1 There are no free air caibrations need. Also I use two different lc1 in two diff cars that both had the same problem..they would randomly freak out and show max and min afr and nothing else. Had to be recal'ed to fix it.

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PLX m300. Easiest wideband to wire by far. Don't deal with any bs inconsistency like the lc1. NO free air calibrations. The gauge isn't the best as far as rice gauges go, but it gets the job done without any hassles.

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I love the guys that complain about free air calibrations...especially when I get to compare what they are actually running (AFRs) vs what they think they are running when the sensor is near the end of its life.

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Ran my 1 year old sensor yesterday and compared it to a dynos wideband. Was off by .1+/-

But I agree, free air calibration is not a bad thing at all. I just thought I'd add it in there because it just makes it a little easier.

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Yeah the douche at ZT figured I hooked it up wrong. I was like "Do you know who I am?" Then he shut his ------- cock holder.

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i really like my Innovate lm-1 and have installed the lc-1 on probably 5 customer cars. they seem to be a little finicky at times, but once setup have no issues. i did find a few issues with my lm-1 the first go around, but when i sent the unit back for repair i was sent back one that has worked flawlessly since. the origional problem was caused when i didnt pay attention to my friend whom i let install the sensor, and he got it tangled in the damn timing belt an geeked the lm-1. also if the sensor crap out, you get weird errors, which have all been remedies with a replacement sensor.

my old roomate used the aem uego, and that was super straight forward and worked perfect right off the bat. so those seem to work quite well also

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Innovate is very accurate and i feel user friendly. I have seen their accuraccy during tunes at the dyno shop i work at. I have run my daily now for over a year and not one problem. :y

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I ------- LOVE my plx m-300. I swap it from one car to another all the time and it works great. and its sneaky as ---- too.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...-/DSC00533.jpg
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That's a nice install :)

Anyone else using a JAW? Everyone I know uses the LC1 over here but I find it too much of a PITA and unreliable. For all its trailer park pretentions, the JAW has just worked from day 1.

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I am an Innovate nustswinger.

;D

NGK AFX can suck my ass...

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I just bought another SM-AFR/DM-5 combo for my Jeep turbo kit. I had one in my green 4 door and it works and fit nicely.

http://www.plxdevices.com/products/dm5/afrsmcombo/

I got mine for $242 shipped.