Re:wideband
 

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=261166
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=438638
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=314620
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=214594
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=208761
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=261757

As much as I hate to link to HT, I also don't want newbies to go around and tune thier new turboed D running zillion PSI on a D.

Re:wideband
 

alright, if you haven't tried it yourself measuring the voltage on a stock o2 sensor then you don't know if i'm right or wrong. in those links it says the o2 sensor only puts out between .9 and 1. volts and that's wrong. the o2 in my car was putting out .7,.8 in idle. this isn't anything new, this has been done for years.

Re:wideband
 

I have tried it, I have a autometer af.

Re:wideband
 

so if you have an "autometer af" why are you asking this question?

Re:wideband
 

OK I may be missing somethign but if I took a Civic VX O2 sensor, hooked it up to a votlmeter, and read the readings, woudl that be accurate enought to tune?
Sorry for being an ignoratn moron

Re:wideband
 

god damnit, you can not measure your afr accurately with a NARROW BAND O2 sensor, if you don't understand how or why not, then you need to do some more research, if you got those numbers somehow, you made some kind of mathematical mistake b/c those were the numbers you were looking for. if this worked, don't you think everyone else would already be doing it instead of telling you it's wrong? for the answer to teh question, zeitronix is best bang for the buck.

Re:wideband
 

Plain and simple....GET A ------- WIDEBAND!

If you can't, find a friend that has one and pay them to help you tune. (There are more ways than $$$ to pay friends or aquaintinces help you to tune)

If you cant find a hookup...pay the dyno guy.

If you try Trebor's method and blow up your car, cry to him.