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wideband
Is it good to buy a wideband?
Or is it worth it? I have a ecu(p06)(engine:d15b7) with uberdata on it Wich one is the best I can buy to tune my car perfectly and have no fuel problem |
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Of course it is good and definitely worth it to me. I've got an LM-1 and I like it.
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lm-1 is made by innovative ,I think
the lm-1 doesnt come with the data logging thing? do you know If I buy aem uego,do I have to buy aem ems to plug it ? |
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You can datalog afr with the LM-1, but if you would like to datalog other inputs also you do have to buy the LM-2 or aux box. I think they make a good product. I'm happy with mine. http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/
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Originally Posted by trebor_nordap
widebands are worth it if you have the extra cash lying around. i got my car tunned at a dyno w/wideband, then later on i wanted to check my afr to see if it was still good like when i took it to the dyno and i checked it by measurring the voltage from the o2 sensor. people here told me it doesn't work, blah blah blah. but thing is, the voltage my 02 sensor put out equaled to the afr i got at the dyno. you measure the voltage with a digital voltmeter.
i picked up a cheap one from radio shack for $18. the positive cable on the voltmeter goes to the green or white wire on the 02(i can't remember which one it was) then the negative you connect to a chassis ground. then you compare the voltage you get to this chart: http://www.zeitronix.com/questions/O2questions.htm i did this and i was getting between 11.5/1 and 12.5/1 above 4000rpms. a wideband is better as far as not having to convert volts to afr but this is way cheaper and easier to hook up. hope this helps. :-* |
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Originally Posted by sickcivic_90
do you know If I buy aem uego,do I have to buy aem ems to plug it ?
I'm pretty sure you do not need the ems and you can just use the wideband by itself. |
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You cannot simply use a voltometer to get an accurate AF. The working voltage range of a thingband o2 sensor is much smaller, and thus less accurate, than a wideband.
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Originally Posted by Atheist
You cannot simply use a voltometer to get an accurate AF. The working voltage range of a thingband o2 sensor is much smaller, and thus less accurate, than a wideband.
People never learn ::) |
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Originally Posted by Anti-NA
Originally Posted by Atheist
You cannot simply use a voltometer to get an accurate AF. The working voltage range of a thingband o2 sensor is much smaller, and thus less accurate, than a wideband.
People never learn ::) |
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So what was the voltage at this "11.5-12.5" af?
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http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=261166
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=438638 http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=314620 http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=214594 http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=208761 http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=261757 As much as I hate to link to HT, I also don't want newbies to go around and tune thier new turboed D running zillion PSI on a D. |
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alright, if you haven't tried it yourself measuring the voltage on a stock o2 sensor then you don't know if i'm right or wrong. in those links it says the o2 sensor only puts out between .9 and 1. volts and that's wrong. the o2 in my car was putting out .7,.8 in idle. this isn't anything new, this has been done for years.
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I have tried it, I have a autometer af.
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Originally Posted by Anti-NA
So what was the voltage at this "11.5-12.5" af?
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OK I may be missing somethign but if I took a Civic VX O2 sensor, hooked it up to a votlmeter, and read the readings, woudl that be accurate enought to tune?
Sorry for being an ignoratn moron |
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god damnit, you can not measure your afr accurately with a NARROW BAND O2 sensor, if you don't understand how or why not, then you need to do some more research, if you got those numbers somehow, you made some kind of mathematical mistake b/c those were the numbers you were looking for. if this worked, don't you think everyone else would already be doing it instead of telling you it's wrong? for the answer to teh question, zeitronix is best bang for the buck.
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Plain and simple....GET A ------- WIDEBAND!
If you can't, find a friend that has one and pay them to help you tune. (There are more ways than $$$ to pay friends or aquaintinces help you to tune) If you cant find a hookup...pay the dyno guy. If you try Trebor's method and blow up your car, cry to him. |
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