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HMTdmc 04-17-2007 10:56 PM

Self Owned!!
 
I actually blew up my own motor sunday night :3 I'm kind of ashamed of myself. I tuned it for 8 psi like four months ago but because I was at the edge of the stock fuel pumps limits I turned it down to four.

Since that tuning session Ive learned tons more from JD Chris and others on pgmfi and I knew my old tune was probably no good the timing IMO was way advanced just looking at it around 21 in crome :S.

But recentlyI'd been having some issues after taking the motor out and cleaning everything up and couldn't figure them out, Until Sunday afternoon. I found a small boost leak in the coupler in my inner fender going up by the battery and an exhuast leak between my turbo and the manifold after that it was back to normal.

I was just so excited to have it fixed that I did something stupid and turned it back up to eight. :1 I have a new fuel pump I was going to put on this week and I'm finally getting an ostrich from Xenocron. It should be here Tomorrow.
I was going to put in the fuel pump and retune at 10psi.
I really didn't think that one pull would kill it but it did shifting from second to third it detonated in cylinders 2&3 it was complete devastation >:D from the boost hitting the oilpan it shot the dipstick out and sprayed all the oil all over the hood an engine bay *L* that I had just cleaned and painted. God told me I don't deserve a clean car

But I found a f22b1 at a junkyard near me for $150 so tomorrow I'm swapping a low miles f22a6 head onto that block and dropping it in my accord. So I'm happy I end up with a much better engine "the old one was at 182k" It was probably just done anyway. And I gained some experiance the hard way.

This isn't the best pic it's just the oil sprayed all over the place. I had wiped most of it up before I thought to take pics My friend have some on their phones I can get but I'll get some sploded piston shots tomorrow but it's all I have right now. I'll have the real ---- tomorrow night. O0 https://hometown.aol.com/dwmcintosh2/images/oil.jpg This belongs in engine managment as a lesson to noobs. Like myself

Minor Threat 04-17-2007 11:11 PM

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21* on an big bore F22 doesn't seem like too much to me, I ran 24* on an H22 and thought that was kinda low.

Smith-02 04-18-2007 12:06 AM

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hold alt, type 167, it gives you º

Minor Threat 04-18-2007 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by c0mpl3x
hold alt, type 167, it gives you º

º

HMTdmc 04-18-2007 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by c0mpl3x
hold alt, type 167, it gives you º

It does nothing on my lappy.


Originally Posted by Minor Threat
21* on an big bore F22 doesn't seem like too much to me, I ran 24* on an H22 and thought that was kinda low.

Well I noticed ect's going up aout 5 degrees in boost. I really think it was that that motor was just done.
It had 180k on it and looking at the plugs they had no sign of det. lean if anything. I'll know more tomorow night.
This happening kind of shakes my confidence. But I guess all I can do is learn from it and move on. I won't be voluteering to tune anyone elses car until this new motor survives awhile. It only has 84k on it and the accord it's in is clean except for the damage from the wreck. You can tell the car was old lady driven.

Oscar 04-18-2007 01:15 AM

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21º at 8ps(14b)i is on the conservative side actually.

HMTdmc 04-18-2007 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by d112crzy
21º at 8ps(14b)i is on the conservative side actually.

Well the turbo I'm using is alot bigger then a 14b. But you know I never heard any detonation and theirs no sign of it on the plugs. Maybe it was just the to much for an old engine *L* and I'm taking it to personally. :-\

Smith-02 04-18-2007 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Dmc1
*L*

what the ---- does that mean

buk9tp 04-18-2007 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by c0mpl3x
what the ---- does that mean

einstein (sp)

EG-prince 04-19-2007 08:33 PM

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check the compression at all? Could be your ringlands just went. I sold my b18b civic to some guy and a month later he brought me the pistons back-- ringlands gone from every piston all at the same time, and no sign of detonation at all. It was NA when I sold it to him, but I had boosted it for 8 months or so and had low compression in 1 cylinder when I went back to NA

HMTdmc 04-20-2007 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by EGgyLShatch
check the compression at all? Could be your ringlands just went. I sold my b18b civic to some guy and a month later he brought me the pistons back-- ringlands gone from every piston all at the same time, and no sign of detonation at all. It was NA when I sold it to him, but I had boosted it for 8 months or so and had low compression in 1 cylinder when I went back to NA

Your 100% right. I removed the head tonight........I'll have pics tomorrow :-X No major fuckage just two little half moon cracks out of the top of cylinders 2&3.

Oh I found the real cause of what happened. I used a plastic vaccum line to gofrom the boost source to my boost controler and it was to close to my turbo and melted :X :1 :S huhhh I zip tied it but it was still to close I guess. I'm so pissed at myself right now.

Guys you'll see in the pics tomorrow night this is the cleanest engine Ive ever taken apart before. It looks better than the 84k f22b1 bottom end I'm putting in it tomorrow. You can read the marks on the pistons theres no carbon build up on anything it's just a light brown color in the middle of the pistons.

EG-prince 04-20-2007 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dmc1
Your 100% right. I removed the head tonight........I'll have pics tomorrow :-X No major fuckage just two little half moon cracks out of the top of cylinders 2&3.

Oh I found the real cause of what happened. I used a plastic vaccum line to gofrom the boost source to my boost controler and it was to close to my turbo and melted :X :1 :S huhhh I zip tied it but it was still to close I guess. I'm so pissed at myself right now.

Guys you'll see in the pics tomorrow night this is the cleanest engine Ive ever taken apart before. It looks better than the 84k f22b1 bottom end I'm putting in it tomorrow. You can read the marks on the pistons theres no carbon build up on anything it's just a light brown color in the middle of the pistons.

Lol thats shitty. I did that myself but I caught it when it boost spiked. After that I used fuel line for my vacuum lines. No melting, and it should give quicker response and be more accurate because there is less flex in the line itself

Slo_crx1 04-20-2007 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dmc1
It does nothing on my lappy.
Well I noticed ect's going up aout 5 degrees in boost. I really think it was that that motor was just done.
It had 180k on it and looking at the plugs they had no sign of det. lean if anything. I'll know more tomorow night.
This happening kind of shakes my confidence. But I guess all I can do is learn from it and move on. I won't be voluteering to tune anyone elses car until this new motor survives awhile. It only has 84k on it and the accord it's in is clean except for the damage from the wreck. You can tell the car was old lady driven.

Get a plug that's 1 step colder and check the blue (annealing) line after a hard run. So far that's helped me out tremendously.

HMTdmc 04-21-2007 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by slo_crx1
Get a plug that's 1 step colder and check the blue (annealing) line after a hard run. So far that's helped me out tremendously.

Oh yeah I read your other thread. I'm now one step closer to being a Joseph Davis. Now I just need to drink more.

Slo_crx1 04-21-2007 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Dmc1
Oh yeah I read your other thread. I'm now one step closer to being a Joseph Davis. Now I just need to drink more.

Lol...we both are. We'd better watch out...people will start thinking we're going H-T nut-huggin' here. ;)

HMTdmc 04-22-2007 11:09 PM

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Well I guess if a mod want's to move this go ahead. Right after it happened it shook my condidence as a tuner and I thought I'd have to go about learning what I did wrong. But it was just a dumb mechanical mistake that I really can't beleive I did.
this is what did it :1
https://hometown.aol.com/dwmcintosh2...pics%20085.jpg

and heres the dead pistons.

https://hometown.aol.com/dwmcintosh2/images/ownage.jpg
I guess it just built up god knows how much psi with the vacuum line to wastegate melted in half and just blew the tops off those two pistons.

Cray91 04-23-2007 04:12 AM

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You don't have a boost gauge?

HMTdmc 04-23-2007 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cray91
You don't have a boost gauge?

:1 It was the one time I didn't look at it. I was racing and I looked up to watch the other car.

HiProfile 04-28-2007 11:28 PM

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Right after I got out of prison, I had 6 hours before I had to be to a wedding. After doing time I just wanted boost, almost as much as vaginal sex. Got my t3/t04b back on in 5 hrs, pulled on the hwy, 1st pull blew a coupler off. Pulled over, noticed the WG nipple hose was cracked - still no idea how much boost it made. Boosted fine after.

Some people have luck, some don't. And I got some back after loosing a shitload of luck. :-\

HMTdmc 04-28-2007 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by HiProfile
Right after I got out of prison, I had 6 hours before I had to be to a wedding. After doing time I just wanted boost, almost as much as vaginal sex. Got my t3/t04b back on in 5 hrs, pulled on the hwy, 1st pull blew a coupler off. Pulled over, noticed the WG nipple hose was cracked - still no idea how much boost it made. Boosted fine after.

Some people have luck, some don't. And I got some back after loosing a shitload of luck. :-\

LOL I'd say after your luck being so bad you find yourself in prison ummm it only could get better from there.

Or like one guy I knew. Went to prison for 15 years got out and after three months desided to rob a bank on presidents day.
He jumped out of his car threw the mask over his had and ran up to the banks door and found it locked :1 :1 His luck was so bad that a cop spotted him and needless to say they violated his parole. I think he onlt had to serve out less than a year somehow because the next summer he was back out and working with me again layng brick.

Econo-Box 04-29-2007 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by HiProfile
Right after I got out of prison, After doing time I just wanted boost, almost as much as vaginal sex.

I cant tell you how much it bothers me that you had to specify.

HMTdmc 04-29-2007 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 97EconoBox
I cant tell you how much it bothers me that you had to specify.

Oh my ------- god!!! I did not pick up on that,,,UM hhhmm so your saying you were tired of ---- sex?

SDRAWKCAB 04-29-2007 02:44 PM

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i was thinking of the same thing i think someone was still getting theres in prison :l

-------..............homo!!

Oscar 04-30-2007 12:04 PM

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After talking to you last night, I wonder how long it took you to write that essay.

HMTdmc 04-30-2007 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by d112crzy
After talking to you last night, I wonder how long it took you to write that essay.

A good minute. I type about as fast as Stephen Hawking.


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