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Old 12-09-2005, 01:19 AM
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The tuner tuned WOT first on the street. Then went and tuned partial throttle for nearly an hour. Ran well all summer, so it's got to be something with the IAT
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Old 12-09-2005, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 98ctr
it sounds like it way too rich when eng. temps are cold. You should have it tuned for part throttle.

my girls car was running way too rich in part throttle and she was only getting about 160 miles per tank of gas. I took out about 15% fuel and now she gets about 240 per tank. I still have to do some more tunning in part throttle.

anyone can tune full throttle but part throttle is where the most tunning is at.
You're an ignorant ---- that needs to learn how this ---- works before you go spouting off at the mouth. Zip it, kthnx. There are severe issues with the current freeware and ECT, IAT less so. I load-cell tuned every ------- cell of the map (well, almost - couldn't load it enough to boost below 2500 RPM) on a car and it ran like ---- when it was cold. Hmm. Maybe something other than part throttle tuning is at work? HMM. MAYBE.
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Old 12-09-2005, 02:00 PM
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You're an ignorant ---- that needs to learn how this ---- works before you go spouting off at the mouth. Zip it, kthnx. There are severe issues with the current freeware and ECT, IAT less so. I load-cell tuned every ------- cell of the map (well, almost - couldn't load it enough to boost below 2500 RPM) on a car and it ran like ---- when it was cold. Hmm. Maybe something other than part throttle tuning is at work? HMM. MAYBE.
I hope you do realize that the ecu will allow more fuel when intake tempererature is cold, and therefore if not tuned properlly at that temperature the car can run rich.

And as for the comment above, I think you are the ignorant one, cuz you don't even know who I am, and my tuning background.
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And as for the comment above, I think you are the ignorant one, cuz you don't even know who I am, and my tuning background.
Oh, Jesus. We have us a real live tuenarboi right here!

Cut and paste him the pertinent bits of the dasm, Dave, and let him show you where you're wrong. This should be good for a laugh.
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Oh, Jesus. We have us a real live tuenarboi right here!

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Old 12-09-2005, 04:19 PM
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Once I wade through the miles of obtuse convoluted obfuscated spaghetti better known as the P30-203 and P72-273 ROM, I'll post the pertinent morsels. And then you can see that on this issue, *I* am right and you are wrong. You forget basic EFI theory! ECT and IAT corrections don't just exist in a vacuum - they serve a purpose, name air density correction. That's the whole ------- point - not to correct for ECTs, but to correct for AIR DENSITY as a result of changes in engine coolant temperature (i.e. hot hot the head is) and intake air temperature (i.e. how much heat the air soaks up as a result of your turbocharger / intercooler / intake piping / intake manifold). There is no such thing as "having your car tuned at that temperature" !!! What it's called is having your air density correction fucked to hell and back, and the fix requires a combination of changing the corrections that the honda code monkeys put in place and changing which of those corrections are used when. Thankyou for calling, have a nice day.

Btw, 98ctr... Do you know who you are talking to? My dick is bigger than my ego, rest assured. Is yours?
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Old 12-09-2005, 07:54 PM
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Btw, 98ctr... Do you know who you are talking to? My dick is bigger than my ego, rest assured. Is yours?
No, but at least im not a coplete ------- about it.
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Too bad it wasn't the other way around. Then I'd have a fast car.
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No, but at least im not a coplete ------- about it.
True - you are a well balanced mixture of ------- and clueless.

It's almost adorable.
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