blundar

I think I still have the VNC reflector on PGMFI's server. It's on 2x T1s, and after 5pm EST should have close to 3Mbit upstream bandwidth. That's twice as much as we had last time we tried using it. Call me tomorrow afternoon if you can Chris - we'll talk more on this.

And as for the DVD footage from Vegas - I'm sorry. Part of the holdup has been my fault, and part of it is my video-editing friend. We have a big regional car show coming up and he has a lot of films to get together for people by the end of the month. I haven't forgotten about this, and fully intend to make time to edit it ASAP.

LSTURBORACER

lets make it happen.. i didnt make the thread to have it disappear.. ill pay whatever it takes to get in.. and im sure lots of others will too.. it will help alot of new guys make basemaps, street tune correctly, do part throttle tuning, etc.. all the things they didnt teach you in highschool lol

Travis

quadnie

I'm sorry, but the wealth of knowledge that Dave & Chris have to offer really can't be comprehensively covered in few hour simple online class with many members. I can see a seminar where many instructors are moving along quickly with an organized presentation but that is live and interaction is at a peak.

I have done online college courses before and I am familiar with how they work (most people just sleep thru the phone lecture). The art of tuning cannot be simply covered in a brief amount of time... everything is different, from wideband reading to limited OBD0 support. Every DIY variable has its own distinctive form of style and will require an education that is unique in its purpose.

I'm not saying for you guys to start an accredited school, but I am suggesting that you make a professional schedule of tuning concepts that you can do on your own time and offer a live study group for whatever the finite topic is. If the pioneers of the movement could organize a time & date for whichever subject it would yield a very effective course for people that really want to know.

If you think that this could actually work than set your own schedule with whichever professors seem best to fit the bill. With the right courses presented on convenient times I think that you could really get a great audience that is fully interested in your specific topic at hand & would be willing to fully vest themselves beforehand. If convenience of the session can make life simple than subscribers will flock. I am definitely down to learn, I've been on the scene since 2003. Chris and I became mods about the same time on this site. The only outlet I have to learn these things is countless hours of reading posts of a few different websites and pure experimentation. I think that you could really attract people wanting to know and experience tuning.

rice a roni

---- im in...lemme know.

LSTURBORACER

man.. thats alot of big tricky words.. we dont think that this can make us all goddly tuners that can tune anything... just a simple basemap making, how to tune for part throttle.. the basics.. i think your thinkin too hard about this whole thing

Zeniceguycrx

you pick up what u can, in the end tou know more and thats what matters

blundar

I, on the other hand, think he's completely right.
YOUR post serves to illustrate that there are several different audiences here. Some people genuinely want to learn how to tune. Most people just want to learn the minimum that they need to in order for their cars to not blow up. Most of HMT probably falls in the latter category. I'm going to cater more toward the former.

Tom-Guy

I shoot straight from the hip.

I love you, sweetie, more than you realise.


I'm more than happy to shoot and rip some segments for someone else to edit, and would be more than happy to pass on any payment. Dave and Chris have both taken care of me in the past, it would be a pleasure to help either of them.

SmellySOHC

Id say make a sweet deal on crome pro + dvd .. id buy that!

quadnie

I'm somewhat silent in my posts nowadays. I'm a member of pgmfi and I'm all about giving a hand in development of something new and different. I am always on a quest to improve current projects and to become the innovator of something new.

The point that I was stressing was quite valid in my eyes, and I'm happy that you took it seriously. I can appreciate the common user who wants to know just enough to get by. The majority of people who quickly whipped up their own setup only need enough expertise knowledge to simply get by. I may be a rare example to actually yearn for it all.. but I would like to think that there are others out there like me.

I've been in the game for a while and I would like to assume that I have the respect of many of the pioneers of the movement. You have accomplished something that will live on for years to come and you along with the rest of the founders of honda technology have made something complicated into a DIY's dream. One of the biggest reasons I keep owning honda cars is because of the friendly DIY scene that has been implemented all thanks to the full reverse engineering of the ECUs. I understand how some individuals have decided to make a few bucks and churn out products like Hondata & Neptune. Business is business. Some people come out with a great product that serves for the mass population of sheep. My true respect goes to the individuals that do it for the love of the game. I like how the Grippo and Bowling project is taking years because they want it to be perfect.



You just let me know how I can help