Walter

first off go to PGMFI and if you wanna use crome..learn how to do if you dont know still and like MAX said, with freelog you can to do anything... otherwise, buy CROME PRO .. just 155$ or so..

Chris Harris

Well, James a put a lot of time...I mean probably thousands of hours into his editor. Lots of big name tuners have used it, like it and have put out some major numbers with Neptune.

The beauty of Neptune RTP is that everything works. There are no random scripts flying around the internet and you dont know if they work, half work or dont work at all.

The other beauty of Neptune RTP is ONE single USB cable for everything, datalogging, uploading...changes etc. And if you want to get real trick with it, you can hook up the bluetooth and do everything with no wires.

You have full control over ALL inputs and outputs. You can trigger, anything electrical based on a variety of different parameters. Dual map capability, nitrous, ITBs....everything.

There are personal things I would like to still see added but at this point it is the most comprehensive system on the market and for the $450 price...there is really nothing that can compete if you are planning on tuning your own car.

If you think of the price tag for Ostrich ($175), Datalogging ($30) and Crome PRO ($149), you are already at $354 plus shipping. For less than $100 more you have an EMS that really has no major bugs that anyone has found yet or can attest to and has the service and support Hondata wished they could give.

All the features are on the HRtuning website someone posted earlier...let me know here if you have any other questions.

SkunT

See, now thats the kinda anwser i was looking for.

Also, I cant get into pgmfi.org. my screen name doesnt exist anymore, and when I try to re-register, I get the spybot attempt screen....

evosol

Ive used Uber way back in the day (v1.2?), Crome for the last 2 years, and finally made the switch to Neptune. I made the switch mainly b/c i felt like i was at a point where my personal time was worth more than having to mess around with getting Crome to work like I wanted it to. Not to take anything away from Crome or say that it won't get the job done, but i found that i was spending more time setting up and trouble shooting that actual tuning with Crome.

I'm busy and have little time to mess with my car, but when i do get a chance to tune, i want to spend it tuning, not trying to trouble shoot and fighting with the system.

so far, i got to datalogg a little bit with Neptune. It was nice for a change to actually walk out to the car, plug it in, and start datalogging without much hassel.

The only hang up ive experienced with Neptune was that i happen to be one of the unlucky few who recieved a RTP board with a faulty chip, which threw a CEL when trying to update. I just got my new board back not too long ago... and since then its dumped a bunch of snow so ive only got to start it up and let it idle.

I read a little bit about the reported problem with Crome's ignition coding issue... something or other... i don't know much about it, but i briefly read about it in the Neptune forum. Maybe someone else can elaborate.

SkunT

interesting. I was talking with a local guy here who has been running hondata since they have been out...he says hes gonna ditch the hondata and get a neptune board.

He's sayin that its just super stable. I'm leaning twords it but just dont know yet.

JonDouglas

Um, bluetooth much. For an added 100 you can get wireless connectivity.

Having an extra 2 controllable outputs doesn't hurt either.

Definitely want to get a Neptune RTP board, but no money.

evosol

unfortunately ive been to busy with school to even start messing with my car, i'm the type of guy that has to finish it if i start it, which could really ---- up a whole study day for me if a 1hr tuning gap turns into a 5 hour session. So ive been patiently waiting to play with my Neptune RTP.

But my cousin, who also just purchased Neptune came over today for some help on the install and we played around with the RTP, all i got to say is WOW. After the initial setup, we had the car very drivable in just 20 minutes! and the best part is that everything worked just like it was supposed to. No cursing, no throwing tools across the garage, no drama...

Neptune RTP, makes tuning just like what its supposed to be, enjoyable. It was so painless that even though i have finals to study for i might spend like an hour tomorow and play around with my car.

ahhh... i can't wait.

SkunT

im about to order somethings from Chris, play around with crome and then go from there. Just like someone posted, I can learn the basics from crome (the freeware) and then go from there with it.

Chris Harris

That is usually the way I would recommend, however...Crome's interface is nicer but the functionality isnt as crisp as Neptune. You might just want to learn Neptune 1st as I find that the first program you learn becomes your favorite and the bugs here or there in Crome that you will run across (and might not know it) will frustrate you where Neptune wont.

I urge you to decide if you want ease and a solid platform or a great user interface with some inherent bugs that will really make you think and learn (this is a good thing, just a little more time consuming).

SkunT

well damit. now I guess I will put some more thought to it.