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Jobi Joba 05-22-2003 01:46 PM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
Actually I've understood what is it...The only thing I need is a user guide!!! ;D Like how to change each timing point,how to set-up the mixture,where to define the V-Tec engagement point,how to set-up launch control rpm...

If someone is nice enough to write a 20 pages (I'm kidding but it could be long) book... ;D

Tom-Guy 05-22-2003 01:56 PM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
Jobi Joba: You don't deserve an answer to your questions; you wouldn't read it anyhow because you want to waste my time. Blundar covered this in the FAQ he already posted.

Leed: http://www.geocities.com/speed_phreak_88HF. I dunno that Steven's email is still valid, I remember him giving me something different @hotmail, but the AIM works and he gets around any number of boards.

projekteg 05-22-2003 02:07 PM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
is there an obd0 and obd1 pr4 ecu?

xtensive 05-22-2003 02:09 PM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
projekteg: Are you still having trouble?

projekteg 05-22-2003 02:14 PM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
yep ;D

xtensive 05-22-2003 02:58 PM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
Godammit, I'm writing a complete installer right now just for you!!!!!!!! Actually I was writing one anyways, but you get to try it out first ;D

Mike

Tom-Guy 05-22-2003 11:30 PM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
Yep, there are 90-91 OBD0 PR4 and 92-93 OBD1 PR4. Depending on which year you have... ;)

shortyz 05-23-2003 03:14 AM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
hey joseph any info on this weird emulator deal?


Jobi Joba 05-23-2003 06:21 AM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Jobi Joba: You don't deserve an answer to your questions; you wouldn't read it anyhow because you want to waste my time.

Are you kidding????I'm reading quite everything I can find on this board which could help to properly build and set up the Civic turbo I'm preparing!

So why do you say that?I'm just here for 4 days... ::) Jeff (AbaZ was more friendly with me...remember I live in France and in France turbocharged Civic just don't exist!So there's no one to give me some advice...)

I've seen the ghettodyne website,I'll download the soft this week-end and I just want some help to avoid changing parameters on the map,thinking I'm changing others parameters!I just don't want to blow my engine...

I already have RomEditor and I'm having hard time to find the right menus to change the map of my Nissan Sunny GTI-R...And Ghettodyne seems very interesting to get good maps for turbocharged Civics (even if I don't even know yet if it's ok for B16A1 OBD0 engine... :-\ )

I'm surprised and disappointed by your reaction... :(

88crxSi 05-23-2003 06:24 AM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
ok.. so an 88 or 89 Si ecu wont work...

I have an 88 Si. Can I just use a 90 or 91 Si ECU?

Plug right in?

turbowagonman 05-23-2003 08:11 AM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
yep it plugs right in and works the same, its just chippable.

88crxSi 05-23-2003 11:27 AM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
ok.. phew! ;D

Sirex 05-23-2003 01:59 PM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
Well i have EVERYTHING ordered to get ghettodyne into the works on my car... one thing i need to know is...
do i need a inline fuel pump? i have a walboro 255 and i was wondering if i needed it on my car or not.

let me know guys...

thanks.. my setup is:
91 crx si, PM6 Ghettodyne
D16Z6 Engine
Rpm activator at 4600 vtec
450cc dsm injectors
IHI Turbo at 8psi
STD manifold, Adapter plate
Tyrus FMIC
Ghetto exhaust setup.


leed 05-23-2003 11:52 PM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
On a 91CRX the stock pump is good w/ 450's up to around 50psi fuel pressure. (on my setup)
I have messed around a bit with different fuel pressures to try and get my duty cycle down and 50psi FP is about the limit. This was observed while feeding a B16 at 8-9psi. Anything higher than that and the FP would start to drop when WOT after 7k.
In short, if you have it, install it. It would set you up for more power potential in the future, but as of now your ok.




scarecrowX 05-24-2003 12:47 AM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 

Originally Posted by Jobi Joba
But in France we have 98 octane fuel...

different countries have different methods of rating the octane level of fuel. is your gas RON 98 octane, or R+M/2 98 octane. if it's RON 98 octane, it's roughly the same as our R+M/2 93 octane. just making sure, i'd hate for you to go really aggressive with the ignition and not have the anti-knock properties you think you do..

and awesome job with ghettodyne. i wish i was even half that computer savvy... ghettodyne doesn't really seem ghetto enough anymore =)

Jobi Joba 05-24-2003 01:24 AM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
Oh... :( I thought you had RON level too...cause you're right,the 98 level I have is RON...So I have the same fuel as you... :( And I'll have the same problems with my ignition timing... ::)

I'll turn the dizzy and see what happens...Or maybe I'll finally unederstand how ghettodyne works and I'll create the map I want... ;) And if it's still not Ok,I'll go for 10% of Toluene in my fuel!!! :P loooooool

Tom-Guy 05-24-2003 11:11 AM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
Jobi Joba: OK, you're french... so guess there is a language barrier. What I meant by my post was this: your questions are already answered in this post. A user named "blundar" posed a "FAQ." Nobody wants to retype things all over again when you just need to go back a page and scroll up.

shortyz, the ROMulator Steven showed me and the one he got were two different things. He ended up buying the $180 EconoROM III out of the Digikey catalog. I need to netsearch for the $109 one, and hopefully for a few referrences on it.

TMAN 05-24-2003 06:11 PM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
hey guys i just wanne say this is a dream come true cant wait to throw away the fpr anyway i just tried ta download it and the site is down, can someone with a good coneection please put it up on kazza or sometin, \


thanks guys`

Tom-Guy 05-26-2003 01:45 AM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
The site isn't down, there's just been a location change... PGMFI is at http://pgmfi.hybridgarage.com now, instead of crx-forum.org. I changed the link in blundar's original post to reflect this, and the link is now working correctly.

Sirex 05-27-2003 09:06 AM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
http://www2.pgmfi.org/phorum/downloa...8/GhDSetup.exe

Ghettodyne 2.2.1 Installer.. Fixes peoples problems with XP and Win 95 With OCX components and Xp errors.

XDEep 06-01-2003 02:45 AM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
joseph i noticed youre pretty familiar with obd0 auto tranny and whatnot. any updates? im wondering why g-force engineering put a 7500revlimit on an auto chip.

anyways, is there an easy way to graft the maps from my gforce pr4 auto chip into the Ghd boost base map? im not boosting yet but have the 450's in already with your maphack. should i even bother? the only problem im having with your maphack is the EGR cel and some slight stutter now and then. im assuming its ok to use the new map and get rid of the maphack, id just lose some resolution like i am now.

well i read the development/obd0/assembly forums and it doesnt seem like i can get anywhere w/o knowing hex much less assembly so its way over my head right now. i saved all the memory locations but again, the hex/assembly thing. if it helps i do know how to use excel heh.

heres the gforce bin http://www2.pgmfi.org/phorum/read.php?f=10&i=852&t=852
does it even look like a correct bin? it doesnt seem to open up in the older Ghd versions or obd0edit. in hex/ascii it looks much different than PR4OEM-Autopulldown.bin which opens up, but then a few others i have dont either, ie pr4-dinan90-91.bin. the autopulldown is from pgmfi while the latter is from someone on g2ic who sent me a zip of several pr4 chips.

Tom-Guy 06-02-2003 01:06 PM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
The fuel and ignition Ghettodyne basemaps I run are from the XS Engineering (same as Dinan) LS tune... PR4 is wierd code, has two ignition maps and four fuel; I just ran with the first occurence of each (they were the only maps different than stock).

I could probably whip something up from your auto program and insert the maps into Ghettodyne 2.2.1... but that code will not work with an auto tranny anymore. Give me a day or two, I just got back home and I am swamped with stuff and things.

Semnos 06-02-2003 04:14 PM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
Does V 2.2 support other map sensors???
Lik 2 bar 3 bar etc..

XDEep 06-02-2003 11:09 PM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
The fuel and ignition Ghettodyne basemaps I run are from the XS Engineering (same as Dinan) LS tune... PR4 is wierd code, has two ignition maps and four fuel; I just ran with the first occurence of each (they were the only maps different than stock).

I could probably whip something up from your auto program and insert the maps into Ghettodyne 2.2.1... but that code will not work with an auto tranny anymore. Give me a day or two, I just got back home and I am swamped with stuff and things.

sweet thanks man. np take your time, im waiting on a batch of 100chips i found for less than the cost of an eraser so you dont have to bother sending me any anymore ;D

91rexBUG 06-04-2003 10:44 PM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
can i use my 1991 HF ecu to retune ??? i have a 91 LS ecu i can use but if i can retune the HF ecu instead that would be cool so i could set this one up for the motor and have the stock chip if i jack anything up.

lewis

Tom-Guy 06-08-2003 10:53 PM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
The HF PM8 *should* be compatible with the new A5H-less PM6 code. You cannot chip those ECUs conventionally; they have no external chip - the program is kept in the main processor itself.

With the A5H-less code (A5H or just A5 is an assembly language command that was only used on $$$ OKI 8xC154 chips from the OBD0 Civic/integra) you can run a cheap $5 Amtel reflashable MCU... you have to socket the board for the 40 pin MCU, and come up with an adapter to reflash the 40 pin MCU. A bit more of a PITA than 90-91 PM6 and PR4, but it works.

Just to be entirely clear... I'm not 100% on being able to chip the PM8 (HF) ECU just yet. No one has done it, but it SHOULD work from all indications.

Doofnoil 06-15-2003 12:20 PM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
man, this ghettodyne stuff is neat, I've heard about it but never checked it out; from how you guys are describing it it sounds too cool! I'm going to the pgmfi board now to read up on this!

rextec 06-16-2003 02:08 PM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
i went to digikey.com and tried to find the atmel chip 29c256 and came up with 30 matches now which one is the right one ???

digitalhav0c 06-22-2003 10:46 AM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 

Originally Posted by kyle h.
damn i just bought an SMC500 and MSD BTM...i guess i can get rid of both of them now, for a chip burner/programer and some chips...

you guys think its worth it...to try and sell them?

Yes i think its worth it for you to sell them cause ill buy one :) so start selling them. send me some information on the install and everthing i've got 90 acura integra pr4 it will work with my computer right?

Tigris 06-22-2003 03:11 PM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
So you can use an 90-91 si ecu in your 4th gen civic or crx with any motor swap? I mean if you use ghettodyne to do the fuel and ignition? Also it will work with any engine swap in your 4th gen "b16, ZC, B18, H22" boosted just by ajusting the fuel and what not?

Sirex 06-22-2003 08:48 PM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
works best on single cams

Tigris 06-22-2003 09:18 PM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
Why? How does it work better with single cams?

TurboEF9 06-28-2003 11:54 AM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 

Originally Posted by Tigris

Also it will work with any engine swap in your 4th gen "b16, ZC, B18, H22" boosted just by ajusting the fuel and what not?

Yes, it will work pefectly with your swap. It's not really "meant" for SOHC, but is commonly used with the SOHC because that is the engine type that the ECU came with. However, since GhD only runs on NON-VTec ECUs, you'll be using something external to activate VTec, right?

So, think about it like this.. Your external VTec activation switch, be it a cheap RPM activated switch, or a V-AFC of some sort, it's not going to be speed dependent like your VTec ECUs are. They are only RPM based. So, no matter how fast you're going, when you hit your specified cross over RPM, VTec will engage. Why is this information important to people running GhD?

Because with this, you can map non-VTec values below your crossover point, and VTec values above. Set your cold rev limit to 100 RPMs below your VTec crossover (as to not hit VTec while your engine is cold), and from your crossover and above, get base maps of the the ECU's high cam of the engine you dropped into your car.

Wa-la.. VTec on a SOHC based ECU, fully tunable with GhD. ;)

Tigris 06-28-2003 01:34 PM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
Thanks for the info. It took a long time for someone to reply.

TurboEF9 06-28-2003 03:44 PM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
..sorry, I only post here when I'm bored of look at pornography. Which is rare. ::)

sporkcrx 06-29-2003 05:24 PM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
This is some good ----, I was planning on going zdyne but now that ghettodyne supports boost I may have to try that instead, I was just waiting for some ginea pigs before me. One quick question, I have a mac, so I'm going to buy some cheap laptop and all the burning software...but to work on the tune, you have to take the chip out of the ecu???

TurboEF9 06-30-2003 11:22 AM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
Ya, unless you have a Windows Emulator tucked somewhere neatly in your MacOS, you'll need a x86 based PC.

As for your other question, yes, the EEPROM has to be removed for reprogramming.

sporkcrx 06-30-2003 02:59 PM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
so you have to un-soder, tune, then resoder every freaken time???

rextec 06-30-2003 04:20 PM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
no that is what a ZIF socket is for. read up on it ;)

hydro01man 06-30-2003 07:41 PM

Re:Ghettodyne 2.2.1 w/ boost officially working
 
So hey whats up with the surges people were saying they were getting with the ghettodyne chip in? I read that some people said it wasnt crappy for a daily driver.


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