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GenLx 01-30-2005 04:57 PM

Experience needed
 
Aright, i've widdled down to two ways i can tune my obd2 ecu, the Greddy eManage unit or the A'PEXi S-AFC 2. i'm leaning towards the apexi but i want to hear from people who've had experience with them and what pitfalls to avoid, which one is better etc. i've tried finding reviews that compare them but so far no luck, but i have found more complaints about the greddy than the apexi thats why i'm leaning towards that.

anyone whose used either of these systems, please help. its not the install i'm worried about, its the actual tuning, cuz i'm basically in the dark on that. thanks

SpankedYA! 01-30-2005 05:32 PM

Re:Experience needed
 
The obvious answer is to convert to OBDI and run Uberdata. Thats the route I went and am very glad I did. Do the research, it will pay off in the end.

Chris Harris 01-30-2005 06:34 PM

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Neither compare to running Uberdata

GenLx 01-31-2005 02:13 AM

Re:Experience needed
 
with my auto tranny it wont work because the tranny control is not internal or something. idk there was a complication with it, posted in a dif thread i asked.

and i know uberdata would be better, but its not an option anymore.

thanks for answering my question btw...

Spenser 01-31-2005 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 5thGenLx
thanks for answering my question btw...

wtf is that supposed to mean?

OBD2 cars hate running those hack type devices like a VAFC and SAFC, There is something with the OBD2 ecu where it will learn and eventually over-ride the settings so you have to periodicly reset the ecu. I tried to install the HKS unit which does basicly the same thing as SAFC, we were trying to run 450cc injectors but the car would just not run right, the throttle response was all off, it was a total mess.

If you are sure you have covered all bases and you are sure about the emange or apexi, I'd say go with the emanage since it appears to have more features. Make sure you look into this a bit further since I know there are some other options out there.

projekteg 01-31-2005 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 5thGenLx
with my auto tranny it wont work because the tranny control is not internal or something. idk there was a complication with it, posted in a dif thread i asked.

and i know uberdata would be better, but its not an option anymore.

thanks for answering my question btw...

i believe the only auto trannies with external tranny controls are the b series, unless you have an auto teg, you'll be able to run uberdata. i know plenty of people that have ran it with auto trannies, but if you've already crossed that option out and have narrowed it down to afc or emanage, definitely go emanage.

turboboy 01-31-2005 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Spenser

OBD2 cars hate running those hack type devices like a VAFC and SAFC, There is something with the OBD2 ecu where it will learn and eventually over-ride the settings so you have to periodicly reset the ecu. I tried to install the HKS unit which does basicly the same thing as SAFC, we were trying to run 450cc injectors but the car would just not run right, the throttle response was all off, it was a total mess.


umm where did you hear this? i never have had this problem nor have i heard of it before

projekteg 01-31-2005 11:40 AM

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^^^ just something else he read on honda-tech probably, so he thinks it's true and speaks it as if he has first hand experience ::)

Spenser 01-31-2005 04:02 PM

Re:Experience needed
 
yep you guessed it, I did learn about OBD2 computers online and how they are weird like that. I also tried it out first hand and as you can tell had little sucess with it. ;)

GenLx 01-31-2005 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by projekteg
i believe the only auto trannies with external tranny controls are the b series, unless you have an auto teg, you'll be able to run uberdata. i know plenty of people that have ran it with auto trannies, but if you've already crossed that option out and have narrowed it down to afc or emanage, definitely go emanage.

so only the b series or tegs obd1 have external tranny controls then? in that case i should be able to convert, i've had people, on here actually, tell me i couldnt. damnit i'm just going to go to honda and ask a tech or something.

if i can convert i'm def uberdata'ing it but i was told i cant convert the auto cuz of the tranny issue.

btw before anyone asks, 97 accord lx f22b2

aright, i still have some hope.

88crxSi 01-31-2005 08:17 PM

Re:Experience needed
 
now thats a different story thats its not a d-series

projekteg 01-31-2005 09:15 PM

Re:Experience needed
 

Originally Posted by Spenser
yep you guessed it, I did learn about OBD2 computers online and how they are weird like that. I also tried it out first hand and as you can tell had little sucess with it. ;)

i own an obd2 vehicle, and have tuned a few with the hack as well, no funny ecu stuff going on there, unless it resets itself at day light savings time or something ???

Chris Harris 01-31-2005 11:17 PM

Re:Experience needed
 

Originally Posted by 5thGenLx

Originally Posted by projekteg
i believe the only auto trannies with external tranny controls are the b series, unless you have an auto teg, you'll be able to run uberdata. i know plenty of people that have ran it with auto trannies, but if you've already crossed that option out and have narrowed it down to afc or emanage, definitely go emanage.

so only the b series or tegs obd1 have external tranny controls then? in that case i should be able to convert, i've had people, on here actually, tell me i couldnt. damnit i'm just going to go to honda and ask a tech or something.

if i can convert i'm def uberdata'ing it but i was told i cant convert the auto cuz of the tranny issue.

btw before anyone asks, 97 accord lx f22b2

aright, i still have some hope.

I believe the OBD2 auto --> OBD1 auto conversion harness makes a provision for the separate transmission control box.


projekteg 02-01-2005 06:22 AM

Re:Experience needed
 

Originally Posted by xenocron
I believe the OBD2 auto --> OBD1 auto conversion harness makes a provision for the separate transmission control box.


but i believe they're only necessary for the b series auto trannies, d series auto lock up solenoids are controlled from inside the ecu.

Chris Harris 02-01-2005 09:08 AM

Re:Experience needed
 
Then this guy has everything he needs to know to go Uber now!

GenLx 02-03-2005 01:48 AM

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i have to confirm my f22b2 auto obd2 will convert to obd1, then uberdata here i come.


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