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moates burner is only $75, chips are like $5/each and the resistors and junk will run you no more than $20....$100+/-. I know that for sure cause thats my old setup partly. and there are guys on here who solder for $20-30 and will have your ---- back in 2 days.

the only point I agree with you on is Emanage being more widely acccepted...it all depends on the person and if you're not familiar with tuning on your own and don't chose to learn than its alot easrier to walk in to a shop and ask them to tune Emanage over Uberdata...why, I dunno? my guess is ignorance of some tuners...both use the same basic tuning principles, except one doesn't say "Greddy" on it, so its not good enough. thats the only thing that bothers me about "brand v. DIY"...DIY is overlooked simply because its not used yet by the big names. yet, Emanage is not without its problems either, so its no angel.

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im doin the afc/btm combo, and it is essentially the same as emanage but has a few less features like mentioned...its totally up to you what you wanna use

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Im not going to argue with any of you on which one is better, im simply stating pro and cons for the guy to make his own mind. I use the apex power fc standalone and its the best I used so far. 98ctr

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Emainge CANT MANGE the rev limiter.....i set mines at 9000, and i just shift at 8000 (just so i dont have a fuel cut off


here are two pics of my tuning with uberdata, like two days ago
http://www.newbieforces.com/files/tuning2.jpg

http://www.newbieforces.com/files/tuning4.jpg

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ive got the whole greddy setup, profec and all. Who thinks i shouild sell it and go with something else? im pretty new to tuning myself.

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i have seen alot of people use E-MANAGE, it is a good setup BUT it is a piggyback, you cant change that no matter how u look at it,

Uberdata and Turboedit are STANDALONE fuel management units.


So i see it as a waste of time to sit here and compare a costly piggyback to a FREE standalone unit.

the E-manage unit is about $300 max for the base unit, but u need to purchase more stuff to get the full use of it, and the program is not free. The harness is about $40 buck each and you need two (injectors and ignition).
u lookst about $450-$500 to get the full use of the Emanage PIGGYBACK UNIT, and EVEN then it does not have all the features as the UBERDATA or TURBOEDIT.

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personally i spent $40 for a stock DX P06 obd-1 ECU, $20 for sockets and harware to chip it, $40 for tools to chip it.
FREE for uberdata. you can get jumper harness obd2-obd1 for about $90 (i built mine's).

$190 over all i would of spend if i bought the jumper harness for a STANDALONE UNIT

(in reality, i paid $100)

----I am loving it, EVERY second of it.............

uberdata all the way

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and all the money i spent on tool for chipping my ecu, i can continue to chip more and make back the money i spent on my whole management. for the E-mange you buy it and that is it.


cheapest i found the emanage (just two mins of surffing)
http://www.hopupracing.com/grepfuco.html

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DUDE CAN'T YOU GET WHAT IM SAYING. IM NOT ARGUING WITH YOU ON WHICH ONE IS BETTER. THEY BOTH HAVE PROS AND CONS.

it might be cost efective for you, cuz you can do all that by your self, but not everyone has the ability or time to make that work for them. And no matter what you say UBERDATA IT IS NOT FREE.

Why don't you post a pic of the "Fuel High" to show him how many tunning points you have under boost. 98ctr

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take you head out of your ass and see the world from a different point.

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Uberdata is free...a chi and a socket is not Uberdata...chipping the ecu is not free...that will cost a bit of money and time, but the software uberdata is free.
So we should actually say...Uberdata is free, but chipping the ecu is not free. :)
Anyone who wants an easy way out and just wants something that works and doesn't want to take tuning to seriously should get a piggyback.If you want to do it right go the ecu chipping way or a standalone. If I had the money I would just buy a standalone.But Uberdata is the next best thing....people are making insane power wiht Uber 400+ hp etc..