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hondaunlimited 12-27-2007 02:41 AM

dumbass question...or so i think
 
ok, ive done a lot of research and have come up short. anyways, i just got a b18a1 into my civic, and the fucker's running hella rich. so rich in that carbon is going by somewhere, and turning my oil blacker than ----. the rings seem to be good, because its not burning blue smoke. it guzzles gas like no other. im sick of this ----. the only thing i can think of is it beiong a bad dizzy. and to top it all off, the ecu is throwing 5, 6, 10, and 24 but not going into limp mode. i take it back. i got on it getting on the freeway, and it threw 43, then went into limp mode. reset it, and 43 went away. ------- weird ass hondas.

cliffnotes: running hella rich, ------- everything up....probable causes?

88dx 12-27-2007 02:50 AM

Re: dumbass question...or so i think
 
FIX the codes. well 5 is a map code probably making it run rich, also 6 is a coolant temp also will make it run rich,10 is a IAT code, I dont see a code 24? and 43 is a fuel supply code. so pretty much id start off fixing 5,6 and 10 haha

Guy-Fast 12-27-2007 05:32 AM

Re: dumbass question...or so i think
 
I have 5 codes and my car isnt running right,whats wrong,LOL.



Fix the codes man just because it can drive doesnt mean its right. code 5 and 6 are dooozey's in the fuel department



and 43 is a result of a shitty runnin car

88dx 12-27-2007 04:14 PM

Re: dumbass question...or so i think
 
chris whats a 24 my book didnt have a code 24 ???

Guy-Fast 12-27-2007 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 88dx
chris whats a 24 my book didnt have a code 24 ???

Never seen that before. Maybe the ecu said ---- it I already have so many codes lets throw a party.

HMTguy 12-27-2007 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by chris
Never seen that before. Maybe the ecu said ---- it I already have so many codes lets throw a party.

You've been having some good sig material lately 8)

Slo_crx1 12-27-2007 07:16 PM

Re: dumbass question...or so i think
 
Honestly it sounds like you have more than a few plugs swapped around on the wiring harness. Try swapping the map and tps sensors around and see what that does (if it clears out the fuel issue), and as far as the IAT sensor goes...well, I know the coolant temp sensor is the same plug, and I think there's another one that fits that pattern as well on the back of the block.

Smokey 12-28-2007 12:58 AM

Re: dumbass question...or so i think
 
Post pics of your vac routing and wiring to your map and Tps

nicko360 12-28-2007 01:43 AM

Re: dumbass question...or so i think
 

Originally Posted by hondaunlimited
ok, ive done a lot of research and have come up short. anyways, i just got a b18a1 into my civic, and the fucker's running hella rich. so rich in that carbon is going by somewhere, and turning my oil blacker than ----. the rings seem to be good, because its not burning blue smoke. it guzzles gas like no other. im sick of this ----. the only thing i can think of is it beiong a bad dizzy. and to top it all off, the ecu is throwing 5, 6, 10, and 24 but not going into limp mode. i take it back. i got on it getting on the freeway, and it threw 43, then went into limp mode. reset it, and 43 went away. ------- weird ass hondas.

cliffnotes: running hella rich, ------- everything up....probable causes?


5 is probalby because of vacum routing

6 you need to replace your coolant sensor, its the one on the back of the block i think

10 is your intake air temp sensor on the manifold

i dont know what the ---- 24 is

and 43 is something fucked up with your fuel supply, swith out your fpr, check fuel pressure, clean your o2 sensor, and check for vacum leaks

i might have those sensors that are bad, if you want to come pick them up you can have em

Guy-Fast 12-28-2007 07:35 AM

Re: dumbass question...or so i think
 
coolant temp
iat
iacv



all share the same plug



tps/map share same plug




10 I promise is your mixmatched iacv with iat plugs





Slo_crx1 12-30-2007 03:32 PM

Re: dumbass question...or so i think
 
Thanks Chris...I couldn't remember which other plugs used the same pattern as the AIT. At least my Mitsu has a different pattern plug for every sensor, no way to get confused there. :S

jarebear667 12-30-2007 04:53 PM

Re: dumbass question...or so i think
 
your oil might be black from fuel getting into your bottom end.. past your rings

hondaunlimited 12-30-2007 06:40 PM

Re: dumbass question...or so i think
 

Originally Posted by jarebear667
your oil might be black from fuel getting into your bottom end.. past your rings

thats the only thing i can think of.

and now the cel light only comes on about 10 seconds after i start it. its really lopey like it wants to die, then after about 25-30 seconds it kicks up to 1500 rpm and back down to idle and runs ok

i swapped the eacv and iat plugs, and they went away. so if anyone has a pic of the right vacuum diagram, i'd be greatful if they could post it.

again, sorry about the noob question, but im afraid that im unfamiliar with the b-series motors. well, thats pretty evident.

88dx 12-30-2007 08:21 PM

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MAP sensor needs vac from the IM. OBD0 TB's have a nipple on the right side for the MAP and obd1 mount the Map on top

hondaunlimited 12-30-2007 11:34 PM

Re: dumbass question...or so i think
 

Originally Posted by 88dx
MAP sensor needs vac from the IM. OBD0 TB's have a nipple on the right side for the MAP and obd1 mount the Map on top

the map is on the firewall, correct? theres the two together, which one is the map? or is it both? i dont have a haynes or chiltons...lame

nicko360 12-30-2007 11:44 PM

Re: dumbass question...or so i think
 

Originally Posted by hondaunlimited
the map is on the firewall, correct? theres the two together, which one is the map? or is it both? i dont have a haynes or chiltons...lame

map sensor is the 3 wire on obd0 thats on the firewall

hondaunlimited 12-30-2007 11:52 PM

Re: dumbass question...or so i think
 
ok. but waht about the other lines, hmmm???

nicko360 12-30-2007 11:55 PM

Re: dumbass question...or so i think
 

Originally Posted by hondaunlimited
ok. but waht about the other lines, hmmm???

this should work for ya

http://whtteg.tripod.com/index2.html

88dx 12-31-2007 12:03 AM

Re: dumbass question...or so i think
 

Originally Posted by hondaunlimited
ok. but waht about the other lines, hmmm???

---- those other lines I always just uplug that 2wire plug and get rid of all that mess on the fire wall :6

Guy-Fast 12-31-2007 12:04 AM

Re: dumbass question...or so i think
 
you need



a map sensor signal to the throttle body



fpr to manifold



throw the rest away



hondas need 2 lines

hondaunlimited 12-31-2007 03:33 AM

Re: dumbass question...or so i think
 
ok, got the map situated. not in just having trouble with the iacv...code 14. when held a a certain rpm(1500rpm and higher) it pulsates rapidly. checked the plug, the plug is ok. when i switched the iat and iacv plug, both codes threw. so what would make the iacv bad?

Slo_crx1 12-31-2007 11:48 AM

Re: dumbass question...or so i think
 
They like to stick or even just die. Try spraying some brake cleaner into the holes that are situated on the intake manifold, and hook it up to a 12v battery. It should click when power is applied. Oh, and that will cause your idle fluctuation.


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