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fuse 11-15-2008 09:13 PM

dohc zc and a pm6
 
Will a pm6 run a dohc zc? How do I deal with the vacuum advance distributor and boost?

CspecRun 11-15-2008 09:34 PM

Re: dohc zc and a pm6
 
Don't know if it helps any, but I ran a pr7(I believe that's the right code) ecu from a d16a1(usdm zc) on my d16a6 back in the day...I had read somewhere that I would see some slight gains from doing so...My buddy had recently totaled out his 89 model Teg RS, so I grabbed it from him....

txdohczc 11-16-2008 05:17 AM

Re: dohc zc and a pm6
 
i run a pg7 but i do not have vaccuum advance

Chaos325 11-16-2008 04:26 PM

Re: dohc zc and a pm6
 
If it is the blacktop zc then use the 88 89 integra pg7 ecu. If its browntop then use the 86 87 integra pg7 ecu. Pm6 shouldn't work unless its chipped because of the zcs exhaust cam sensor.

Tom-Guy 11-16-2008 09:40 PM

Re: dohc zc and a pm6
 
Since the exhaust cam sensor is in alignment, PM6 works fine albeit runs lean.

FYI, Cspec, PR7 is the NSX part number. Must have been one hell of a ZC. :P

fuse 11-16-2008 09:49 PM

Re: dohc zc and a pm6
 
Its chipped. I am just not familiar with the engine or distributor. So I can still control ignition tables threw turboedit like any other d?

notfastcrx 11-16-2008 10:00 PM

Re: dohc zc and a pm6
 



Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Since the exhaust cam sensor is in alignment, PM6 works fine albeit runs lean.


i'm running a dohc zc with a walbro & stock fuel pressure regulator b/c i'm a cheap ass. would i be better off running the pm6 since it leans it out? or should i stick with my pg7

Tom-Guy 11-16-2008 10:17 PM

Re: dohc zc and a pm6
 
Run whatever you can tune; this is a turbo site, and all turbo cars need custom tuning.

lock-pop! 11-17-2008 03:34 AM

Re: dohc zc and a pm6
 

Originally Posted by Chaos325
If it is the blacktop zc then use the 88 89 integra pg7 ecu. If its browntop then use the 86 87 integra pg7 ecu. Pm6 shouldn't work unless its chipped because of the zcs exhaust cam sensor.

it will work

pm7 FTMFW

Guy-Fast 11-18-2008 05:07 PM

Re: dohc zc and a pm6
 
Get chipped pm6/pr4




pg7's running zc's was because you had to spend 1000 on zdyne to tune anything back in the dinosaur days. Turboedit is free



The era of what stock ecu is best is over

lock-pop! 11-19-2008 06:56 PM

Re: dohc zc and a pm6
 
^^^^^so true

CspecRun 11-19-2008 07:04 PM

Re: dohc zc and a pm6
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
FYI, Cspec, PR7 is the NSX part number. Must have been one hell of a ZC. :P

After reading this thread, I'm sure it was actually a PG7, not a PR....That was many moons ago, I remember catching hell tryin' to find the ECU cause all the ones I HAD dealt with were in the passenger side floor board, where as the Integra ecu was under the passenger SEAT....I cursed and threw ----....

fuse 11-21-2008 08:11 PM

Re: dohc zc and a pm6
 
I’m confused I looked into a zc a bit more. It only has a top dead center and cylinder position sensors on the exhaust cam. I saw no crank position sensor. I did see what looked like another cylinder position inside the distributor. Will this make a different the pm6 is chipped but I know a pm6 uses all 3 sensors. Will a normal D distributor fit on to the motor? I’m just worried about the vacuum advance thing I want to be in control of ignition timing especially in boost. I just want to ditch all the vac crap.

By the way its not a true zc its out of the first gen acura intera. Is the true zc different?

Tom-Guy 11-22-2008 01:24 AM

Re: dohc zc and a pm6
 

Originally Posted by fuse
I’m confused I looked into a zc a bit more. It only has a top dead center and cylinder position sensors on the exhaust cam.

The exhaust cam sensor is a cylinder position sensor. There is no second sensor in the enclosure.

The distributor has the CKP and the TDC sensors.

fuse 11-22-2008 06:02 PM

Re: dohc zc and a pm6
 
As long as it has all 3 im good. Im green with zcs

kablammyman 11-25-2008 06:08 PM

Re: dohc zc and a pm6
 

Originally Posted by fuse
Will a pm6 run a dohc zc? How do I deal with the vacuum advance distributor and boost?

if your motor is vac advanced, then you cant tune the ecu, or use the pm6/pr4...

If its electronic advanced, then you are good to go with the turboEdit goodness!

fuse 11-25-2008 09:49 PM

Re: dohc zc and a pm6
 

Originally Posted by kablammyman
if your motor is vac advanced, then you cant tune the ecu, or use the pm6/pr4...

If its electronic advanced, then you are good to go with the turboEdit goodness!

Can I just swap the dizzies? Or do I have to find a head with cool ignition? So confused now.

kablammyman 11-26-2008 06:09 PM

Re: dohc zc and a pm6
 
you cant just swap the dizzys, since the wiring harnesses are different. You will have to make a conversion harness, making the appropriate changes, or use the complete wiring harness from an 88-89 integra (or some other obd0 car with electronic advance...i onyl deal with g1tegs tho O0).

With my 87teg, a buddy and I tried a few times to make the few wiring changes to use the elec adv dizzy, but we couldnt get it to work right. So, when I wrecked my 89teg, i ripped out the complete harness from it, and put in in my 87teg. That was the brute force, not-so-efficient way to handle things, but it worked.

Later on, someone from g1teg did the conversion like a normal person would. Hers the link:
http://www.g1teg.org/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=30524

the post 5th from the top has what changes need to be made.

edit:

oh yeah, about the head. you will need the cam caps from an electronic advace motor (namely a d16a1 from an 88-89 teg or a similiar ZC). Without this, you will not have a place to bolt the dizzy on the head. The bolt holes are different between the vac adn elec adv motors...so with the proper cam cap, you can at least use one dizzy bolt. I guess you can make a lil plate or something to get the other 2 bolts in place, but I've been fine just using the top.

I'm not sure if this applies, but I can easily change to obd1 since I have the complete elec advance harness. All I need to do is make a few changes to the clips for the obd1 dizzy, re-pin those cips, and use an obd1 ecu. However, I'm not to sure what chagnes need to be made if you convert to elec advance with only doing the wire changes...it could be the same process...

Tom-Guy 11-26-2008 06:34 PM

Re: dohc zc and a pm6
 
You can also use a SOHC D15B6 cam cap and run a SOHC dist.

fuse 11-26-2008 09:18 PM

Re: dohc zc and a pm6
 
Nice ZC. Thanks every one for clearing that up. Why dose ZC save a zc ZC ZC ZC ZC o-k saves as zc wtf.

Tom-Guy 11-26-2008 10:15 PM

Re: dohc zc and a pm6
 
ok, i have no idea what you just said.

fuse 11-26-2008 11:20 PM

Re: dohc zc and a pm6
 
every time I type o-k it will not post o-k it post zc?? If I dont use the dash it post zc

LOL how did you post o-k wtf??

Tom-Guy 11-27-2008 12:42 AM

Re: dohc zc and a pm6
 
ok, you are some form of retarded. got it.


















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